Dual Camera iPhone 7 Plus Could Offer 'DSLR-Like' Quality, 3D Depth Mapping

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Earlier today, reputable KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said the iPhone 7 Plus will likely have a dual-lens camera system based on technology Apple acquired from LinX Imaging. The new hardware could lead to some significant improvements in camera quality on Apple's next flagship smartphone.

    LinX's multi-aperture cameras pack impressive image quality in a smaller size than single aperture cameras, meaning the iPhone 7 Plus may lack a protruding camera lens and be able to take SLR-quality photos -- think Canon or Nikon. The camera modules are also capable of very interesting technology called 3D depth mapping and more.

    We previously provided an in-depth look at LinX's camera modules after Apple acquired the company, but it is worth recapping some of the major advantages of their technology, given today's iPhone 7 Plus rumor.

    Noise Reduction

    The images captured by the LinX camera are brighter and clearer, with significantly reduced noise levels, compared to smartphone cameras. Available detail when zoomed into a photo was also much greater, as can be seen in the comparison below. View this PDF for more side-by-side image comparisons.


    Improved Indoor Photos

    In the photo below, the image was taken in mid-levels of light, at approximately 40 to 50 lux, similar to a decently well-lit room in a house or restaurant. The LinX sensor let in more light than the iPhone 5 or the Samsung Galaxy S4, for a photo that is clearer and sharper with less noise.


    Improved Low Light Photos

    LinX technology is able to significantly improve low light performance by using multiple channels to increase the sensitivity of the camera for better detail. It also keeps exposure times short to cut down on the motion blurring that can impact photo quality in conditions where lighting is not optimal.


    LinX technology doesn't have to compromise between pixel size and resolution, as it can use small pixels but still let in adequate amounts of light.

    3D Depth Mapping


    LinX's multi-aperture cameras can create detailed depth maps of objects. With depth information on a per-pixel basis along with RGB information, LinX cameras can create 3D point clouds of objects from a single frame or a complete 3D model by combining several frames captured from different angles.

    3D depth mapping has a number of useful applications, including 3D scanning of objects, sizing of objects, background removal and replacement and gesture recognition. The depth maps also allow for improved refocusing; by knowing the depth at every pixel, the feature allows for a synthetic blur to be applied that emulates a shallow depth.

    Benefits Overview

    - Better color accuracy and uniformity
    - HDR - higher dynamic range
    - UHDR - ultra high dynamic range
    - Low noise levels
    - Higher resolution

    - Low module costs
    - No Autofocus for modules of up to 20MP
    - Zero shutter lag
    - Small size allows for slim devices and edge-to-edge displays

    Read A Look at LinX Camera Technology for more details about the dual camera systems.

    Article Link: Dual Camera iPhone 7 Plus Could Offer 'DSLR-Like' Quality, 3D Depth Mapping
  2. voyagerd macrumors 65816


    Jun 30, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, CA
    Now if the laws of physics could enable us to have optical zoom the same as a 400mm lens on a phone, I'd be set.
  3. goobot macrumors 603


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    Why do I need to get a phone that's way too big for me in order to get the improved camera?
  4. magicschoolbus macrumors 6502


    May 27, 2014
    meh, new cameras on iPhones never really excite me.. and i never purchase a new phone because it has a better camera.
  5. cwwilson macrumors 65816


    Jan 27, 2009
    Oklahoma City, OK
  6. AppleWarMachine macrumors 6502a


    Sep 27, 2011
    Michigan, US
    oh course it looks better...comparing it to an iPhone 5 and 5s :rolleyes:
  7. MattXDA macrumors 6502


    Aug 18, 2014
  8. japjoe7 macrumors member


    Jan 28, 2011
    So friggin annoying...why are they comparing to the 5s instead of the a new 6s. Probably because there is not much of a noticeable difference.
  9. MikhailT macrumors 601

    Nov 12, 2007
    Noise reduction is a huge problem with the 6/6s cameras, something iPhone 5S is better at. The samples used here is on iPhone 5S as well, so that means the next iPhone camera with LinX features will be the biggest improvement in image quality in many years, assuming Apple didn't do anything else to mess it up.
  10. Glassed Silver, Jan 27, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2016

    Glassed Silver macrumors 68000

    Glassed Silver

    Mar 10, 2007
    Kassel, Germany
    If I see the words "SLR[-like] quality" and "phone" in one sentence one more time...

    That's some of the biggest PR bull ever and most of the media outlets chime right in.

    Glassed Silver:mac
  11. citysnaps macrumors 68020

    Oct 10, 2011
    San Francisco
    Because the improved camera module is too large for the smaller phone's case.
  12. MikhailT macrumors 601

    Nov 12, 2007
    Because these PDFs were made at the time when iPhone 5S was the newest model and right before Apple bought the company out. Since Apple bought the company, you can bet no further public information is allowed.

    And iPhone 6s is definitely worse than iPhone 5S in noise reduction quality IMO.

    Source: http://snapsnapsnap.photos/iphone-6s-camera-comparison/
  13. 69Mustang macrumors 601


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    The LinX tech looks great but how does it compare to what we already have in today's iPhones? Comparisons to the iP5 and 5S are dramatic but would the results look as drastic v the 6S or 6S+?
  14. japjoe7 macrumors member


    Jan 28, 2011
    Hmmm, sounds reasonable. I'm going to test noise with my wifes 5s tonight against my 6s plus
  15. shanson27 macrumors 6502a


    Nov 27, 2011
  16. Dydegu macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2015
    1. Apple needs to give us some native photography modes: aperture priority, shutter priority, etc. The world's most popular camera doesn't offer its users much to learn more about how to take great pictures.

    2. With improved low light capability, the whole anti-recording at concerts/shows crowd isn't going to be too happy.
  17. MH01 macrumors G4


    Feb 11, 2008
    Great to see improvements in image quality, though SLR like.... Yeah, you cannot fool physics even with marketing lingo .
  18. AyeKay15 macrumors newbie


    Sep 14, 2015
    In the words of Daniel Bryan, YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!! Thank you Apple, I love you so much
  19. 1Zach1, Jan 27, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2016

    1Zach1 macrumors 6502a


    Feb 8, 2008
    Northern Va
    Nice post, but I feel as though it's a wasted effort for something that won't be on the 7, 7+ or any 7 variation.
  20. AyeKay15 macrumors newbie


    Sep 14, 2015
    It's fine dude, who cares? Just save up an extra $100 for the Plus.
  21. DevNull0 macrumors 65816

    Jan 6, 2015
    The best part is when the idiots who fall for that PR see my pictures (shot with a D90 from 2008) and ask me where I got them printed because they came out so much sharper than their iPhone prints.

    But then you have people in the photo forum here who insist their iPhone is as good as an SLR and show side-by-side pics under ideal lighting to prove it. When you suggest they try shooting in dimmer light or compare crops so you can really see sharpness at print resolution, they never seem to notice those posts.
  22. MacRum2011 macrumors regular

    Jul 14, 2011
    just wish there was a manual focus because auto focus is absolutely ridiculous at times.
  23. I4u macrumors newbie

    Sep 6, 2013
    -- This is an older picture when LInx were in acquisition by apple.
    --- Post Merged, Jan 27, 2016 ---
    This is an older picture when LInx was in acquisition by apple.
  24. Popeye206 macrumors 68040


    Sep 6, 2007
    Well.... looks like a drastically improved camera is on the way.... Sweet.
  25. DevNull0 macrumors 65816

    Jan 6, 2015
    So if its for a product you don't have any interest in, it's a wasted effort? Lots of people will buy a 7+ and enjoy this feature. If you're not one of them, that's your problem, not Apple's or the 7+ users.

    By your logic, it's wasted effort for Apple to make a phone at all because it won't run OSX. Or it's wasted effort for a Ferrari to have a powerful engine because it won't be on a Ford Focus.

    Here's a hint, there are more people on this planet that you, and more usage cases than yours.

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