this is pretty cool. Someone just asked about this kind of thing in the Doom3 thread, it's sweet that Apple is clawing their way back to the top of the performance heap (like back when the G4 was first released, no pc could touch them)
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If apple pumps the speed up to 3 or more GHz, PC gamers would have something other than wintel to use. But if apple doesn't ever design macs for gaming they can only realistically gain 30 to 40 percent market share, as 70% 
of PCs are sold for GAMING
of PCs are sold for GAMINGAgreed. Change "G" Naming
I agree. the PowerMac 970 would be great. Remember the commercial a year or two ago that had a guy carring a box with a G5 or G6 on it? They were ripping on what Apples current and near future naming scheme is before it even happened. I'd support a new naming system. It's not like you can even figure out what other companies' names for their models even are (e.g. P720GX-421YK Inspirduroncrapon)
A PowerMac 970 seems so much more powerful because of the "970" >> "5" or "6". Marketing 101.
mac_head101 said:Apple should break with the G-series processors and try something new.
Imagine a PowerMac 970.
I agree. the PowerMac 970 would be great. Remember the commercial a year or two ago that had a guy carring a box with a G5 or G6 on it? They were ripping on what Apples current and near future naming scheme is before it even happened. I'd support a new naming system. It's not like you can even figure out what other companies' names for their models even are (e.g. P720GX-421YK Inspirduroncrapon)
A PowerMac 970 seems so much more powerful because of the "970" >> "5" or "6". Marketing 101.
I would like to draw attention to the 4 way smp that Apple has committed to. A 4 processor multi-core machine.
Earth Simulator here we come
Earth Simulator here we come
your getting the fx, not the mp
trbeat said:I just ordered a new Mac with one of those new fangled chips, my order says on or before July 30th ...
musicpyrite said:
If you read the full article at ThinkSecret it says that the new chip will not support L3 cache.
From the article:
It's not going to be a G6
Pontiac is coming out with a new car next year the replacement for the Grand Am and it's called the G6. I can't imagine there hasn't already been some copyright issues addressed on this *Pontiac must be in the clear to use the name *and I'd be willing to bet Apple has no intention to let the name of their high-end processor be confused with a Pontiac.
Pontiac is coming out with a new car next year the replacement for the Grand Am and it's called the G6. I can't imagine there hasn't already been some copyright issues addressed on this *Pontiac must be in the clear to use the name *and I'd be willing to bet Apple has no intention to let the name of their high-end processor be confused with a Pontiac.
rcs128 said:
Who would confuse a car with a computer processor?
People aren't confused about G4TechTV and the apple processor- or at least i'm not, rcs128
rcs128 said:
Incorrect. You think "Apple" is the only company name out there. Why do you think Apple Records sued Apple Computer? It's because trademarks can be shared as long as the markets are totally different. Apple just had to give up the TM "Rendezvous" not because 30 other people used it but because TIBCO is also involved in computers. The G6 is coming unless another computer company has TM'd "G6"
Dell or some other computer company probably TMed it so gullible users would associate "Faster than apple's G5" with "Dell"
mac_head101 said:If apple pumps the speed up to 3 or more GHz, PC gamers would have something other than wintel to use. But if apple doesn't ever design macs for gaming they can only realistically gain 30 to 40 percent market share, as 70%
Think again. A bestselling PC game that tops the sales chart would get about 500,000 to 1 million units sold. That will slowly increase, but let's go with the initial sales. Now, toss that into existing 22 million Mac users, that would give us a 3 to 6% increase. Doubles our population, but it's not like Mac sales are reliant on such games.
70% of PCs sold for gaming? Doubtful. Business buy PCs in bulk, not gamers.
"Does Pontiac use an Apple to process all those calculation thingimajiggies!?!?"
Okay, Apple would probably replace the two chips they are using with this one, dual core chip, but I hope they just use 2 dual core chips. Will software even be able to recognize that many microprocessors? Will you need to get new software to take advantage of two dual core chips?
Okay, Apple would probably replace the two chips they are using with this one, dual core chip, but I hope they just use 2 dual core chips. Will software even be able to recognize that many microprocessors? Will you need to get new software to take advantage of two dual core chips?
By that time, pci-express 16x and and ddr2 memory will actually show some performance improvements over agp 8x and ddr memory, so these technologies better be included in these 2005 G5s.
applekid said:
Let me rephrase that. 70% of HOME PCs are used to play games more than 3 hrs. per day, according to Janus. So not EXCLUSIVELY for games.
Tiger looks like it was set-up for dual Power5-UL processors (ie, keeping track of physical/logical CPUs), so having 4 physical CPUs shouldn't be much different to the OS than the 4 CPUs seen on a dual SMT processor machine -- even though it's really 2 physical and 2 logical making up the 4 CPUs.Abstract said:"Does Pontiac use an Apple to process all those calculation thingimajiggies!?!?"
Okay, Apple would probably replace the two chips they are using with this one, dual core chip, but I hope they just use 2 dual core chips. Will software even be able to recognize that many microprocessors? Will you need to get new software to take advantage of two dual core chips?
Hector:
Totally incorrect. You can't look at mhz and conclude that its fast enough, any more than you can look at processor clock speeds. It's latency is not low enough. Sure it can stream a lot of data (bandwidth) but that main RAM has a huge round-trip time (latency). The G4's L3 had lower bandwidth but much lower latency as well.
Sun Baked:
I actually find the dual-core G5 very easy to believe because it would be easy for IBM to design, easy to Apple to use, and sort of easy to produce (though it would be getting a tad large at 90nm). Lots of companies are talking about dual core versions of chips they already have (AMD, Intel, Sun, HP...).
I think this all goes to show that the rumor mill cranks out random crap all the time. Who knows if the next chip is a Power5-lite, or a 970-dual, or something else. Clearly not the rumormongers, they just spew constantly and everyone seems to forget that the story was different last week.
I actually find the dual-core G5 very easy to believe because it would be easy for IBM to design, easy to Apple to use, and sort of easy to produce (though it would be getting a tad large at 90nm). Lots of companies are talking about dual core versions of chips they already have (AMD, Intel, Sun, HP...).
nuckinfutz said:
I don't think *most* people would confuse a chip with a car, but the Pontiac G6 is going to be the carmaker's bread-and-butter vehicle *and I'm sure they'll throw millions in dollars of advertising to promote it. So shudder to think, when the masses hear G6, they're going to think "Pontiac".