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dual G4 Powerbook?
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krossfyter
macrumors 601
Re: OWWWWW
you may have the rev a. if you have the rev b ones..then either a) you are leaving them on to long doing photoshop filters and exporting movies and or burning cds..... for the case to melt or b) you are wearing shorts and are sensitive....with no case melt.
i see your point...however... the powerbooks are impressive.
the proccessors in the laptop are of a higher quality then the pcs craptop proccessors. if you want less in the quality but more on the number quantity and just care about doing mnor things with you laptop...then the pcs craptops are for you. the powerbooks are like a porsche or ferrari...of course the engine is going rock it. if one cares about not rocking it with thier laptop then go for the cold low powered geo metros....known in the computer world as the pc craptops.
you may have the rev a. if you have the rev b ones..then either a) you are leaving them on to long doing photoshop filters and exporting movies and or burning cds..... for the case to melt or b) you are wearing shorts and are sensitive....with no case melt.
i see your point...however... the powerbooks are impressive.
the proccessors in the laptop are of a higher quality then the pcs craptop proccessors. if you want less in the quality but more on the number quantity and just care about doing mnor things with you laptop...then the pcs craptops are for you. the powerbooks are like a porsche or ferrari...of course the engine is going rock it. if one cares about not rocking it with thier laptop then go for the cold low powered geo metros....known in the computer world as the pc craptops.
True, PCs seem to have the edge on MHz (667 compared to 2000MHz).
But, think of it this way. A portable Pentium 4 uses the chip as a 64-bit processor, while the G4 in the Powerbooks have 128 bit (sometimes 256 bit) data pathways, which enable around four times more data to be carried about.
Besides, MHz/GHz is just part of the battle for consumer sales of computers. The flops in the computer make a difference. (One flop is a floating point operation in one second.) If I am not wrong, a 2000MHz P4 could do around 300 megaflops, but a 667 G4 Powerbook could preform at least a gigaflop (1000 megaflops). That what makes the Powerbook G4 a portable supercomputer and a P4, well, a P4!
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Bill Gates: All you need to upload pictures from your camera is a fast PC and some boring software.
KC: Well I have a Mac, and the software I use operates in OS 10. Does that make me better than you?
But, think of it this way. A portable Pentium 4 uses the chip as a 64-bit processor, while the G4 in the Powerbooks have 128 bit (sometimes 256 bit) data pathways, which enable around four times more data to be carried about.
Besides, MHz/GHz is just part of the battle for consumer sales of computers. The flops in the computer make a difference. (One flop is a floating point operation in one second.) If I am not wrong, a 2000MHz P4 could do around 300 megaflops, but a 667 G4 Powerbook could preform at least a gigaflop (1000 megaflops). That what makes the Powerbook G4 a portable supercomputer and a P4, well, a P4!
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Bill Gates: All you need to upload pictures from your camera is a fast PC and some boring software.
KC: Well I have a Mac, and the software I use operates in OS 10. Does that make me better than you?
krossfyter
macrumors 601
i just cant believe how many times in here one hows to truthfully defend the quality of the macs over pcs...REGARDLESS of the number issue.
it just seems sometimes people just dont get it and they still are looking at these numbers. i would think...sure..thats understandable for pc users...but from mac users...come on....i thought we were versed on this number game.
not trying to flame or anything. so its cool!
it just seems sometimes people just dont get it and they still are looking at these numbers. i would think...sure..thats understandable for pc users...but from mac users...come on....i thought we were versed on this number game.
not trying to flame or anything. so its cool!
Catfish_Man
macrumors 68030
Re: Re: can u say a load of....?
Someone recently cooked an egg on an AthlonXP, it was pretty funny. They draw ~70 watts of power......... horrible isn't it? Still, they're fast.
Someone recently cooked an egg on an AthlonXP, it was pretty funny. They draw ~70 watts of power......... horrible isn't it? Still, they're fast.
kiwi_the_iwik
macrumors 65816
What's Hot and what's Not...
A friend of mine at school about 20 years ago (whew! that's going back!), who was a "backyard programmer" had this bright idea of connecting his Sinclair Spectrum 48k (remember those?!? Check out www.emulation.net if you need a refresher!) to his bedroom circuitry - to control his TV, lights, radio and alarm (upon reflection, pretty sad, really).
The program he wrote worked fine in trials, so he decided to leave the computer on overnight, for it's first real test...
...The next morning, he awoke to the acrid smell of burning rubber and plastic; only to find that his pride and joy had turned into a pancake of melted metal and polymers - like some form of macabre tribute to Salvador Dali.
And to add insult to injury, he'd overslept too.
It's interesting to see the heat issue is still causing problems after all these years...😉
A friend of mine at school about 20 years ago (whew! that's going back!), who was a "backyard programmer" had this bright idea of connecting his Sinclair Spectrum 48k (remember those?!? Check out www.emulation.net if you need a refresher!) to his bedroom circuitry - to control his TV, lights, radio and alarm (upon reflection, pretty sad, really).
The program he wrote worked fine in trials, so he decided to leave the computer on overnight, for it's first real test...
...The next morning, he awoke to the acrid smell of burning rubber and plastic; only to find that his pride and joy had turned into a pancake of melted metal and polymers - like some form of macabre tribute to Salvador Dali.
And to add insult to injury, he'd overslept too.
It's interesting to see the heat issue is still causing problems after all these years...😉
jefhatfield
Retired
spikey is right.
macs should do some more catching up to pc speed. pcs are faster in most areas. macs win in photoshop and maybe video editing, but that's all i'm aware of.
macs win everything else (os, ease of use, coolness factor, etc.) except for gaming.
macs should do some more catching up to pc speed. pcs are faster in most areas. macs win in photoshop and maybe video editing, but that's all i'm aware of.
macs win everything else (os, ease of use, coolness factor, etc.) except for gaming.
jefhatfield
Retired
i agree...but unofortunately, speed is still a "selling factor" in personal computers so apple needs to catch up to some degree
i believe once apple gets all their desktops and laptops over 1 ghz, consumers will be more willing to go apple...today, anything less than 1 ghz sounds too slow...except for the specialized ultra portable machines which are sold for their size and wieght, not speed
i believe moto has slowed apple up on this speed war but since the dual 1 ghz tower, apple has finally put one of their four machines in the "correct" side of the fence for the rather uneducated average consumer
for me, i would still buy a 800 mhz imac over a 3 ghz dell...even at the same price because i look at features and ease of use/maintenance and i am sure that's what most of you here look for, too...but unfortunately, only people like us cannot keep apple afloat forever
AlphaTech
macrumors 601
jefhatfield has some valid points. It really is unfortunate that people purchasing computers look only at the speed in terms of MHz/GHz.
I firmly believe that the currnet G3 chips (700MHz+) beat the stuffing out of any of the celeron chips.
In the tasks that I need to perform on a daily basis at work, the 733MHz G4 on my desk does them just as well, if not better, then the new 1HGz+ p3/p4 systems we get coming on (very few of those).
I am will be looking to get a second Mac system sometime either this summer (after MWNY) or early next year (about this time actually). It would be sweet if Apple was to come out with GHz+ G4 laptops, or G5 desktops by then... or even engineer up the dual GHz TiBook (drool).
They do have laptop stands with fans built in so that you can get a constant flow of air around them. That might be standard equipment with a dual TiBook to get rid of the excess heat.
Time will tell as to what comes out next. All we can really do is hope and keep our fingers crossed that Apple will do it right.
I firmly believe that the currnet G3 chips (700MHz+) beat the stuffing out of any of the celeron chips.
In the tasks that I need to perform on a daily basis at work, the 733MHz G4 on my desk does them just as well, if not better, then the new 1HGz+ p3/p4 systems we get coming on (very few of those).
I am will be looking to get a second Mac system sometime either this summer (after MWNY) or early next year (about this time actually). It would be sweet if Apple was to come out with GHz+ G4 laptops, or G5 desktops by then... or even engineer up the dual GHz TiBook (drool).
They do have laptop stands with fans built in so that you can get a constant flow of air around them. That might be standard equipment with a dual TiBook to get rid of the excess heat.
Time will tell as to what comes out next. All we can really do is hope and keep our fingers crossed that Apple will do it right.
jefhatfield
Retired
Re: No Way !!!
then somebody needs to make a battery that will power two chips for at least four hours in a tibook...any less will piss off the mac set
in most instances, both chips will not to utilized
pc laptop users are and have always been used to less than three hours and never really complained too mightily about it
folks, in some ways, we are falling behind the pc industry
lambroghini was a great car with a small market share but they didn't cater to average users like other competing companies like maserati and porsche which had some middle line models...in the end chrysler bought lambroghini...lets hope M$ or dell or hp-compaq doesn't buy apple
what if acura only made the nsx or cars like it...it's like apple not making a 500 dollar computer (that portion of the market is gigantic)
apple has a good high and middle end, but no low end (sub 500 dollars usd...sub 1000 dollar laptops)
then somebody needs to make a battery that will power two chips for at least four hours in a tibook...any less will piss off the mac set
in most instances, both chips will not to utilized
pc laptop users are and have always been used to less than three hours and never really complained too mightily about it
folks, in some ways, we are falling behind the pc industry
lambroghini was a great car with a small market share but they didn't cater to average users like other competing companies like maserati and porsche which had some middle line models...in the end chrysler bought lambroghini...lets hope M$ or dell or hp-compaq doesn't buy apple
what if acura only made the nsx or cars like it...it's like apple not making a 500 dollar computer (that portion of the market is gigantic)
apple has a good high and middle end, but no low end (sub 500 dollars usd...sub 1000 dollar laptops)
AlphaTech
macrumors 601
battery life
If Apple uses G4 chips that have less power draw then the current ones in the TiBooks (not sure if there are ones that draw 50% of the current or not), then a new battery may not be needed. If a dual processor model uses the same amount of power as the current singles do, then that is all that is needed. Does anyone happen to know offhand if they generate gobs of heat (the mobile version, not desktop).
We can all dream of the days of a DP TiBook, but only Apple can make it happen.
If Apple uses G4 chips that have less power draw then the current ones in the TiBooks (not sure if there are ones that draw 50% of the current or not), then a new battery may not be needed. If a dual processor model uses the same amount of power as the current singles do, then that is all that is needed. Does anyone happen to know offhand if they generate gobs of heat (the mobile version, not desktop).
We can all dream of the days of a DP TiBook, but only Apple can make it happen.
Mr. Anderson
Moderator emeritus
dual processor - 1 chip
Something to think about. Its not exactly a new idea, and would require a reworking of the chip, but by putting multiple processors on a single chip heating might be less of an issue, especially if the two processors share some of the same resorces.
Something to think about. Its not exactly a new idea, and would require a reworking of the chip, but by putting multiple processors on a single chip heating might be less of an issue, especially if the two processors share some of the same resorces.
Haven't you seen it?
Apple has already released the specs for these babies!
http://www.msykes.com/geek/titanium/
I'm ordering one right now...
msykes
Apple has already released the specs for these babies!
http://www.msykes.com/geek/titanium/
I'm ordering one right now...
msykes