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As exciting as this is, I can't help but ask something: Why no love for T-Mobile? (or Sprint for those people wanting a Sprint iPhone).

Sprint is cdma/T-mobile is gsm. Whose to say Apple did not add their frequencies.
 
You'll laugh, but Japan doesn't use GSM.

I believe that the WCDMA frequencies supported by the non-Verizon iPhones are usable in Japan. I have a phone with similar frequencies (850/1900/2100) and my operator says that I'll have no trouble with roaming in Japan.

Edit: As mentioned above, SoftBank supplies iPhones so the frequencies are definitely compatible. Just don't lock the phone to GSM-only mode :)
 
Great news. Man, the iPhone 6th gen is shaping up to be the definitive phone: GSM, CDMA, HSPA+, 4G, NFC, and perhaps even quad core. No wonder Apple is kind of half-assing this upcoming iPhone 4s/5 with the late release and the weak feature set.

Too bad they couldn't stagger features better to make the next phone more worthwhile.
 
If you are expecting LTE in the upcoming iPhone, you are setting yourself up for an upset.

exactly, until lte can run efficiently (not waste too much battery) we won't see apple putting it in the iPhone.
 
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Apple -> MVNO?

How about iPhone automatically switching to the best carrier? If you're in the US and you happen to be where AT&T is strongest, your iPhone could switch to AT&T. If Verizon happens to be strongest at the moment, your iPhone could switch to Verizon.

You pay Apple every month instead of any single carrier. Apple forwards payment to AT&T or Verizon (or whatever carriers you happened to use), pro-rated by actual minutes used.

I'd gladly do that. (As long as it isn't *too* much more than just paying just one carrier directly...)
 
With the insanely small bandwidth caps now in place, (or that are being phased in right now) - the only thing LTE would offer me is just a faster way to exceed my cap... and be penalized.

I'm not saying 3G is adequate forever, but LTE with current caps = being given a nice Lamborghini, but with the maximum speed limited to 35mph. Why bother with something like that?
 
How about iPhone automatically switching to the best carrier? If you're in the US and you happen to be where AT&T is strongest, your iPhone could switch to AT&T. If Verizon happens to be strongest at the moment, your iPhone could switch to Verizon.

You pay Apple every month instead of any single carrier. Apple forwards payment to AT&T or Verizon (or whatever carriers you happened to use), pro-rated by actual minutes used.

I'd gladly do that. (As long as it isn't *too* much more than just paying just one carrier directly...)

I like this idea!
 
With the insanely small bandwidth caps now in place, (or that are being phased in right now) - the only thing LTE would offer me is just a faster way to exceed my cap... and be penalized.

I'm not saying 3G is adequate forever, but LTE with current caps = being given a nice Lamborghini, but with the maximum speed limited to 35mph. Why bother with something like that?

Isnt the speed limit in the US 65mph on most highways anyway? Much lower than the 150mph of which a super car is possible.

I just don't get these complaints that LTE will make you drain your cap much faster - in Oz we have 2GB caps for around $25/month and I never exceed that - even with a faster download speed I wouldnt be exceeding that as I wouldnt be downloading more just more quickly.

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No wonder Apple is kind of half-assing this upcoming iPhone 4s/5 with the late release and the weak feature set.

Could you share the detail of the weak feature set as I didnt think anyone had a full and accurate feature set to assess as yet.
 
iPhone 5 Release Date

The iPhone 5 will be released on October 4th, 2011.

Don't ask how I know because I won't say. But that's the day.

Just remember who you heard it from first!
 
How about iPhone automatically switching to the best carrier? If you're in the US and you happen to be where AT&T is strongest, your iPhone could switch to AT&T. If Verizon happens to be strongest at the moment, your iPhone could switch to Verizon.

You pay Apple every month instead of any single carrier. Apple forwards payment to AT&T or Verizon (or whatever carriers you happened to use), pro-rated by actual minutes used.

I'd gladly do that. (As long as it isn't *too* much more than just paying just one carrier directly...)

While this would be super awesome, The carriers would never let this happen. They are quite happy with the way things are. Though, I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

As long as they allow the iPhone 5 to be unlocked I'll be happy. Verizon is big in my area, but it'd be nice to switch to GSM when traveling.

Is there reason to rejoice because it's a dual mode phone? What does this do for me?

It means that (hopefully) you could buy an iPhone and use it on any network. Also resale of iPhones would probably go up because buyers wouldn't have to be locked into the network of the seller.
 
The iPhone 5 will be released on October 4th, 2011.

Don't ask how I know because I won't say. But that's the day.

Just remember who you heard it from first!
Despite the fact that the previous four iPhones have all released on a Friday.

Not terribly convincing, I might say.

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Is there reason to rejoice because it's a dual mode phone? What does this do for me?
Well, if you were a Verizon iPhone user, you could take your iPhone abroad and it wouldn't be a fancy paperweight because you could shove a local carrier's SIM into it and actually use it as a phone on a GSM/UTMS network.

About 85% of this planet uses GSM/UTMS, not Verizon/Sprint's CDMA technology.

Of course, if you don't travel, you won't understand this benefit.
 
Took some time but this is some sweet news, so who wants to bet iphone 5 sells even more than all combine iphones before it? :p
 
Sprint is cdma/T-mobile is gsm. Whose to say Apple did not add their frequencies.

Let's hope. The Qualcomm MDM6600 supports T-Mobile's 3G/HSPA+ frequencies. That's all I really want to so I can jump over to my parents family plan that has the grandfathered "Unlimited 3G" data plans.
 
iphone 5 Release Date

Despite the fact that the previous four iPhones have all released on a Friday.

Not terribly convincing, I might say.



I can understand why you would say that. After all I'm new to MacRumors. But I'll tell you what. I'm going to give you one last little bit of info, that might just provoke you to believe that the iphone 5 will not be released on a Friday. But this is really the last bit of info.

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/services/serviceDetails.jsp?LOSGId=8556608836&skuId=sku1040075&catId=

If you take a close look at the above link you will see the following:

1) The monthly insurance premium will increase $2.00 on October 4th, 2011.

and if that wasn't enough...

2) (go to the bottom) The iphone will suddenly move to a Tier 3 deductible...($199).

Hmmmm...those certain devices, just happen to include the iPhone. Isn't that odd???

That's as far as I go
 
this is unlocked right? so it will work with t mobile but slow edge? 1 phone that works on 3 carries :D i wonder if it will be more harder for jailbreakers to hack it..
 
Could you share the detail of the weak feature set as I didnt think anyone had a full and accurate feature set to assess as yet.
We know there's no LTE and no NFC. Those are really the only two I'm interested in. I suppose 1080p video would be nice; that's still perhaps a slim possibility. 64 GB storage seems like the only obvious one, and with iCloud, maybe that's not even happening.
 
Dual sim card

I would like to see them develop a dual sim card phone, so you could have a private and business account separately, or carry your home card or international card for traveling.
 
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