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For $5 you can get a travel wallet the size of a credit card that can hold multiple sims - probably cheaper than a dual sim for a very small number of users.

Of course that doesn't help business/non-business accounts but personally I wouldnt want the extra bulk of handling two sims in one phone when I didnt need it.
 
This is amazing... one phone you can use anywhere in the world. Pre-order me one unlocked one please, even if I have to pay $600 USD.
 
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I think it would be smart to wait for AT&T to roll out LTE first, then release world phones with LTE capabilities.
 
That's pretty cool! Now if only the conventional wisdom is wrong and the phone supports LTE as well...
 
I'd guess so. It would be pretty silly if the phone was locked to AT&T and Verizon (since its CDMA) respectively.
I wonder if Apple choses not to unlock iPhone, or is it an AT&T thing?

They should do it like in France. Under the French law, the provider company have to unlock the phone officially after 3 months either with a 1 year or 2 years contract if the consumers ask, so that the phone owners can plug any card around the world!!!
 
With the insanely small bandwidth caps now in place, (or that are being phased in right now) - the only thing LTE would offer me is just a faster way to exceed my cap... and be penalized.

I'm not saying 3G is adequate forever, but LTE with current caps = being given a nice Lamborghini, but with the maximum speed limited to 35mph. Why bother with something like that?

Apple and Google need to step in on this one. How are we supposed to revolutionize the mobile experience if were spending half our paycheck... Cable and Mobile Internet prices need to be lined up just a little bit closer.
 
How about iPhone automatically switching to the best carrier? If you're in the US and you happen to be where AT&T is strongest, your iPhone could switch to AT&T. If Verizon happens to be strongest at the moment, your iPhone could switch to Verizon.

You pay Apple every month instead of any single carrier. Apple forwards payment to AT&T or Verizon (or whatever carriers you happened to use), pro-rated by actual minutes used.

I'd gladly do that. (As long as it isn't *too* much more than just paying just one carrier directly...)


This would also be a huge incentive for carriers to improve their network quality!
 
I would like to see them develop a dual sim card phone, so you could have a private and business account separately, or carry your home card or international card for traveling.

Wish in One hand and crap in the other, see which one fills up first .


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It means that (hopefully) you could buy an iPhone and use it on any network. Also resale of iPhones would probably go up because buyers wouldn't have to be locked into the network of the seller.

Well, if you were a Verizon iPhone user, you could take your iPhone abroad and it wouldn't be a fancy paperweight because you could shove a local carrier's SIM into it and actually use it as a phone on a GSM/UTMS network.

About 85% of this planet uses GSM/UTMS, not Verizon/Sprint's CDMA technology.

Of course, if you don't travel, you won't understand this benefit.

Thanks to both of you. Now I get it.
 
They should do it like in France. Under the French law, the provider company have to unlock the phone officially after 3 months either with a 1 year or 2 years contract if the consumers ask, so that the phone owners can plug any card around the world!!!

Or like where I live, It's illegal for carriers to lock their phones at all :D

Also its about the only plus side of living in Guernsey
 
Global is the way to go, just hope they will keep the slot for the sim card "open" as it is now, which will make it easy to just buy local sim cards while traveling. :)

Provided the phone is unlocked...
 
I would like to see them develop a dual sim card phone, so you could have a private and business account separately, or carry your home card or international card for traveling.

I would love that too, the dual SIM Samsung phone I have from my work is the worst PoS I have ever used, I have tried some bad phones in my life but this one takes the prize easily. Sadly, it's the about the only option out there. I'm surprised there aren't more dual SIM options out there, it's ideal for businesses.
 
It's a great idea. Less confusion for people buying phones here in the Marketplace too!

8gb is a bit small for an iPhone 4 though - iOS is getting pretty hefty these days!
 
This isn't much of a surprise. I for one didn't expect to see Apple continue to manufacture two of the same device for two different carriers. It only makes sense.

Agreed, and it's something that really should have happened on day one of the iPhone only because dual band "world" phones have existed since 2001 (which is as early as I can remember).

I am very glad to see promising rumors of Apple pushing their tech forward, now lets get this iPhone on a network with real unlimited data please.
 
I'd guess so. It would be pretty silly if the phone was locked to AT&T and Verizon (since its CDMA) respectively.
I wonder if Apple choses not to unlock iPhone, or is it an AT&T thing?

I put my money on AT&T. Many of the network restrictions placed on phones are required by the service provider. I don't think Apple really cares what network you use the phone on as long as they get paid.
 
I'm unfamiliar with dual-mode phones. Will the SIM card be accessible?

Yes. Dual mode means the phone can by theory work on a GSM and CDMA network. This is of great value for Verizon, since now, ALL Verizon iPhone 4 phones are bricks outside the states for the most part, since GSM is the global standard. But with this, your Verizon phone will also come with a SIM card, so that your phone can at least roam on a GSM network (Hence the 'Global' phone).

Now, if you happen to buy an unlocked iPhone 5, then by theory you should be able to use almost all networks in the US; pop in a SIM for your favorite carrier, or call Sprint / Verizon and give them your phone identifier (Not sure about 3G compatibility though if Sprint and Verizon use the same frequencies).
 
To the folks clamouring for dual-SIM cards ... wouldn't a software SIM facilitate the function of dual-SIMs without the added bulk? This would be a good use case for software SIM cards.
 
I would like to see them develop a dual sim card phone, so you could have a private and business account separately, or carry your home card or international card for traveling.
It will never happen.

That's too complicated and esoteric. It's un-Apple.

Steve likes simplicity. Heck, Apple wanted to go SIM-less but the carriers pushed back hard.

The dual SIM card handset is the antithesis of everything Apple.
 
Will there 2 ESNs with the phone? If the phone is reported lost or stolen on Verizon, it will have a bad ESN, but it will still be usable on the GSM netowrk??
 
Now, if you happen to buy an unlocked iPhone 5, then by theory you should be able to use almost all networks in the US; pop in a SIM for your favorite carrier, or call Sprint / Verizon and give them your phone identifier (Not sure about 3G compatibility though if Sprint and Verizon use the same frequencies).

Sprint and Verizon 3G are compatible. I have Sprint service and a Sprint phone, and I can roam on Verizon's network at 3G speeds. I do this a lot actually, because an area I frequent has no 3G Sprint service.

The current Verizon-compatible iPhone 4 is already 100% compatible with Sprint's network. People with Verizon iPhone 4s can, right now, roam on Sprint's 3G and voice network. The only thing keeping people from activating them with Sprint is Sprint themselves. They have a policy that they won't activate any phone, compatible or not, unless it was sold specifically for their service to begin with. Hopefully they'll either change that policy or just start selling the iPhone, because I want one but I do not want to leave Sprint.
 
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