dual processor tibook

[King Cobra]

All right, alex_ant.

Let's assume my information is false. Can you write anything better that what I have done? I would like to here this...because all you seem to say is that KC is a BSer, KC is this, KC is that...I mean, what the heck do you want out of me? I don't see you posting any real information, just unneeded comments.

I think that if you can't back up your arguments, don't bring them up. Simple as that.
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[alex_ant]

Originally posted by King Cobra
With the possibility of having a dual processor in a Powerbook with high speeds, low power DDR-RAM

Fast DDR SDRAM costs not much more than PC133 SDR SDRAM. Figure an extra $25 per 256MB.

and a much improved faster Hard Drive

Why?

this all adds up to cost. And I don't see why Apple consumers would want to spend more than the current $3000 maximum for their current top of the line model, which lacks ALL of these features.

Who says they would have to? The current models are overpriced anyway. Apple is making at least a $1k profit off of every 667MHz PowerBook. (If you don't believe me, look at the 550MHz model and notice that the only difference is the position of a few resistors soldered into place on the motherboard.)

The 1GHz G4s Apple is selling in its Power Macs, which I'm assuming (<--- see, the difference between stating fact and guessing) are not the same time that would be used in a notebook, cost around $250 each in quantities of 10,000. If we can use that price as a ballpark figure, I don't think the cost factors involved in a high-end dual-CPU PowerBook would be prohibitive.

If Apple could find a way to keep the price of their products down, especially below $3000, while managing to import all of the necessary technology that would make the dual processor as effective as possible, then I would be for it.

What necessary technology? It's all there already.

Then Apple would be left with one other problem: the PowerMac lineup. Apple would have to incorporate all of the features plus extra speed in order to keep the Pro Line of products superior to their portable cousins.

Well, a Power Mac speed bump is due soon. And I don't think a $3000 DP laptop (if that is indeed what it would cost), assuming dual 800MHz CPUs, would cannibalize Power Mac sales much.

My essay was only supposed to reflect an opinion on what I think would be most logical (currently). Once the prices on certain advanced equipment dropped, and Apple found a CPU chip that produces little heat and uses little power, I would have changed my essay to express a progression towards dual processor Powerbooks.

But, currently, it would not be logical. That is why I argued against it.

Good golly, I hear about the world going to **** on CNN and I think if these are the kinds of critical thinking skills being taught to our youths today, we're in a lot more trouble than we think.

Alex

 

[King Cobra]

KC: If Apple could find a way to keep the price of their products down, especially below $3000, while managing to import all of the necessary technology that would make the dual processor as effective as possible, then I would be for it.

alex_ant: What necessary technology? It's all there already.

Now, wait a minute! So all the technology is there right for Apple to grab and use in their Powerbooks. So why exactly doesn't Apple resort to using this technology?
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[alex_ant]

Originally posted by King Cobra
All right, alex_ant.

Let's assume my information is false. Can you write anything better that what I have done?

Could I? Most certainly. Will I? No. Spouting off mountains of nebulous garbage to your heart's content, and then daring anyone to prove you wrong is NOT the way to conduct a logical argument. In a way, I already have responded - every quote of yours I've responded to with "What? or "Huh?" or "Hahaha!" is one that is patently false. And that's not just my opinion - that's fact. Correct yourself if you wish, but I'm not your own personal friggin' CS prof.

I would like to here this...because all you seem to say is that KC is a BSer, KC is this, KC is that...I mean, what the heck do you want out of me?

Take a step back and look at yourself. The only reason you're being called a BSer is because you're posting pure false information under the pretense that it is in fact not false at all. You're pasing around your half-baked "knowledge" around as if it's straight out of the CS textbook, yet you fail to indicate that what you're discussing is, in fact, nonsense. This is why you are being called a BSer, dear KC. If being called a BSer hurts, then 1) stop posting BS immediately, and 2) pledge never to post BS again. If you do both of those things, I promise that neither I nor anyone else will never call you a BSer ever, every again.

I don't see you posting any real information, just unneeded comments.

Unneeded? I beg to differ. I won't stand for BS, and where I see it, I'll do my best to stamp it out. It's my duty - it's EVERYONE's duty. Who cares if I haven't posted any real information? I don't have to "post real information" in order to enlighten you to the fact that you're full of it.

I think that if you can't back up your arguments, don't bring them up. Simple as that.

90% of the "arguments" you've presented have holes in them big enough to drive a friggin' oil tanker through, as any first-year undergraduate computer engineering student would be merrily inclined to point out, and the burden of proof is on ME to rebut your utter rubbish? I don't think so.

Alex

 

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by King Cobra
Now, wait a minute! So all the technology is there right for Apple to grab and use in their Powerbooks. So why exactly doesn't Apple resort to using this technology?

Well, that's what we're trying to figure out, isn't it? As I've pointed out, the motherboard would need to be redesigned to accomodate the 2nd CPU, and heat issues would need to be dealt with. But I do not think a DP PowerBook is technologically unfeasible.

Alex

 

[King Cobra]

At least if Apple does come out with a dual processor Powerbook, it would sure be faster than the mobile P4 chips.

And I don't think heat would be much of an issue by then. Funkatation posted that "DDR RAM actually runs cooler and uses less power than SDRAM.. newer technology =)". So I THINK that means that dual processor Powerbooks will use somewhat less power than the current Powerbooks.

So, with the argument of dual Powerbooks, I am all for it!
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[alex_ant]

Originally posted by King Cobra
So I THINK that means that dual processor Powerbooks will use somewhat less power than the current Powerbooks.

That's very good. Even better would be "I'm guessing" or I will assume." But I think you're getting the hang of making the distinction between what you know as fact and what you think might be fact.

So, with the argument of dual Powerbooks, I am all for it!

How rationality can change one's mind so quickly.

Alex

 

[mmmdreg]

Grow up Alex...

 

[jefhatfield]

you know, the individual beatles had better solo careers

i mean, would you buy mick's solo albums?

 

[alex_ant]

He's not dead yet... he could pull out a surprise

 

[King Cobra]

mmmdreg, I actually have to admit alex_ant really put it to me, although, at this point in time, has a few less posts than me. And I was not even posting exactly the information I had in mind, in which he corrected me. So go lightly on him.

jef, I got your email about the powerbook battery life. I didn't want to send anything back because
(1) I just saw it a few minutes ago
(2) My email address is actually messed up with someone else. My father and I are using the same service provider, and we are getting many problems.

So, there were three firsts today for me:
(1) I got shut down by someone with less posts.
(2) I got an email from someone who actually uses a Mac (unlike my cousin).
(3) I am halfway to avatar status. I haven't even decided what it will be. I will try to find something nice.
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[alex_ant]

Originally posted by King Cobra
mmmdreg, I actually have to admit alex_ant really put it to me, although, at this point in time, has a few less posts than me.

I'm just curious, but of what significance is our number of posts?

Alex

 

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by alex_ant
He's not dead yet... he could pull out a surprise

george harrison died of cancer this year and john lennon was shot by a deranged fan

brian jones died in his pool in 1969 and the stones gave a concert at hyde park in his honor

 

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
george harrison died of cancer this year and john lennon was shot by a deranged fan

brian jones died in his pool in 1969 and the stones gave a concert at hyde park in his honor

Okay... ... He could pull out a surprise if he doesn't die soon.

 

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by alex_ant

I'm just curious, but of what significance is our number of posts?

Alex

From my last 6 posts, none

But I like to think that those with more posts usually are thought of higher authority figures. I am not sure if that is true or not, but that is how I think.
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[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by alex_ant

Okay... ... He could pull out a surprise if he doesn't die soon.

stu sutcliffe was the first beatle who died and when paul mccartney replaced him on bass, paul was rumored to be dead a few years later culminating in some hidden signs of his demise on the cover of the abbey road album

there are said to be a lot of signs pointing to that mystery

one one of the beatles songs, i think "a day in the life", john lennon says something like "i buried paul" when the song is played backwards but john lennon said he simply said, "cranberry sauce"

 

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by King Cobra


From my last 6 posts, none

But I like to think that those with more posts usually are thought of higher authority figures. I am not sure if that is true or not, but that is how I think.
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i have a lot of posts, but why is it only me that is talking about 60s icons

 

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by jefhatfield


i have a lot of posts, but why is it only me that is talking about 60s icons

Don't feel bad 'cause you're one of the few "old-timers" here.

Heck, since most of the guys here seem to be in their teens, I feel old and I'm only 23!

Paul McCartney is like Cal Ripken Jr., he's just gonna keep on playing...and playing...and playing...

As for Ringo...I never really liked him much...


KC - Post count should not be taken as an indicator of knowledge/sagacity/authority or anything else. There are many people with 500+ posts (myself included) that can spout complete BS at times, or just reply with 3 or 4 word responses in order to get another post without really adding to the conversation. The only people with authority around here are arn and blakespot, because they run the place. Don't forget that.


800...so there!

 

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by King Cobra
But I like to think that those with more posts usually are thought of higher authority figures. I am not sure if that is true or not, but that is how I think.

I really don't think the concept of authority applies here, except to the people who run the site. I've seen some very intelligent posts here from people who have very few posts (eirik comes to mind). Likewise, I've seen some extremely dumb posts by people with lots and lots of posts (not to mention any names ) I still would have reacted the way I did to your "essay" even if you had had 1000+ posts and I had had 2. It's not about how many posts you have, it's about how worthwhile your posts are.

Maybe I'm just rambling about something nobody cares about, but that's my view, anyway... although I would like an avatar as well.

Alex

 

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
i have a lot of posts, but why is it only me that is talking about 60s icons

That is a very, very good question... Alzheimer's?

 

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU


Don't feel bad 'cause you're one of the few "old-timers" here.

Heck, since most of the guys here seem to be in their teens, I feel old and I'm only 23!

Paul McCartney is like Cal Ripken Jr., he's just gonna keep on playing...and playing...and playing...

As for Ringo...I never really liked him much...


KC - Post count should not be taken as an indicator of knowledge/sagacity/authority or anything else. There are many people with 500+ posts (myself included) that can spout complete BS at times, or just reply with 3 or 4 word responses in order to get another post without really adding to the conversation. The only people with authority around here are arn and blakespot, because they run the place. Don't forget that.


800...so there!

wow, congrats on 800

you are like cal ripken and paul mccartney!

 

[jefhatfield]

Originally posted by alex_ant

That is a very, very good question... Alzheimer's?

say wha?

 

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
800...so there!

It's 801 now

According to the Onion, Ringo is next to kick the bucket. He's in pretty good shape, so it looks like Paul has a while left to go.

You know who's having a really great solo career, though? Pete Townshend. And Daltrey is looking really great for his age. He's like Robert Redford or Harrison Ford... still a stud after all these years. I can only hope to age that gracefully.

 

[alex_ant]

Originally posted by jefhatfield
say wha?

Exactly

 

[chmorley]

2 quick points

1. Having 200+ posts in such a short period of time only demonstrates you have lots of time on your hands. Those aren't the people I look to for "authority". Maybe I have a bit more respect (generally) for people who have been posting for a longer time. Mostly, though, you can smell bullshît a mile away. I respect the ones who write only about what they know and ask questions about what they don't.

2. What about the Who or Led Zeppelin ? The moptops got is started, and the Stones roughed it up a bit, for sure. Zep, though, brought it to a new level. Besides, to be a real rock and roll band don't you have lost at least one drummer? This eliminates the Beatles.

Which brings to mind another thing--anyone ever see "This is Spinal Tap"? Now they knew how to knock off drummers! Between spontaneous combustion and a "horrible gardening accident" they went through a whole BOC's worth of band members.

Chris
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