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Mr. Lemon:

And as far as a need/want. Well first to respond to the "bonehead" (for those who didnt notice his post thats his name, im not just being a jerk) no there isnt a need for a dual processor laptop, but to ditinguish between need and desire is stupid. NO ONE NEEDS a computer of any kind AND whether they will sell or not has nothing to do whether there is a need for the item or not.

I'm glad you agree with me. However, my point is not that a computer's commercial viability is based on a need for it. Rather I suggest that most users could get by with existing machines even though they say there is a need for new ones.

As far as no one needing a computer I would say that if you are a 3D animator you do need a computer. My field is video/film and even though it is technically possible to do my job without a computer, I need one. Clients couldn't stand not being able to see a rough composite let alone a simple dissolve or even multiple versions quickly. I would have a very hard time getting jobs. I'm sure people in other professions could offer other examples but I hope you see my point.
 
Beatles/Stones

Stones: better guitar players
more soul
great singer

Beatles: better songwriters
more innovative
great singers

I love them both. The Beatles though had the most consistently brilliant output. The Stones have had some spotty albums but then again what would The Beatles have done if their career was a long?
 
You know, it's amazing considering all the miscellaneous substances Keith Richards has taken over the years that he can still play guitar. That man is baked, yet he still puts quite a few of these nu-metal wankers to shame.

Alex
 
Originally posted by alex_ant
You know, it's amazing considering all the miscellaneous substances Keith Richards has taken over the years that he can still play guitar. That man is baked, yet he still puts quite a few of these nu-metal wankers to shame.

Alex

Speaking of baked, how about that Ozzy Osbourne? Funny thing is, I can only understand him when he's singing (anyone see SNL this weekend...;) )...
 
Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Speaking of baked, how about that Ozzy Osbourne? Funny thing is, I can only understand him when he's singing (anyone see SNL this weekend...;) )...
I wonder: Were Keith and Ozzy ever coherent? I'm not old enough to know... The reason I ask is, if they used to be understandable, then I wonder what Liam Gallagher is going to be like in 30 more years. They had to subtitle his Behind the Music interview and he wasn't even far past 25 at the time. It's staggering to think of what his speech will be like after all the lines he's done (and is doing) really start to affect his brain...

Alex
 
Originally posted by alex_ant

I wonder: Were Keith and Ozzy ever coherent? I'm not old enough to know... The reason I ask is, if they used to be understandable, then I wonder what Liam Gallagher is going to be like in 30 more years. They had to subtitle his Behind the Music interview and he wasn't even far past 25 at the time. It's staggering to think of what his speech will be like after all the lines he's done (and is doing) really start to affect his brain...

Alex

since the 70s ozzy has been a little slow...keith looks bad and has a crooked gait, but his mind is still sharp if you can get past his looks

i think ozzy is that way naturally even though he has done tons of drugs...even during the earlist black sabbath clips, ozzy never moved the stage like jagger or daltrey

this is bad but since i am an oldie, i have no idea who liam gallgher is and i think he is in oasis but that is all i know and some say the are beatles-like...is that true...

help me out on this one
 
jefhatfield

Liam Gallagher is the lead singer with Oasis and is a complete c**t......

I'm affraid I can't stand either the Beatles or Oasis, so neither will get a nice ride from me....

Oasis are just way over hyped, the main songwriting brother Noel Gallagher rips off everybody and anybody.... and it's true, they are completely stuck in the Beatles tribute wannabe mould!! The only reason you could say they were Beatles like is because A: they've covered most of the Beatles songs and B; they've stolen most of the Beatles music aswell!! C one of the brothers called their son Lennon...... :rolleyes:

They believe they're the new Beatles of our time, or just as important as, now I hate the Beatles with a vengence, and I really believe that Lennon and McCartney to be the 2 most overated songwriters in history..... but the one thing you can say about the Beatles is that they atleast innovated, and thought outside the Mainstream, well, Sgt Peppers did...... they atleast tried to do different things in the name of creativity, and for this I respect the Beatles..... how ever Oasis, just steal peoples riffs......such as Get It On by T-Tex, or Shakermaker, where they stole alot of I'd Like to Teach the world to sing these are just 2 that spring off the top of my head.....

Basically Oasis are running very rapidly out of other peoples idea's....... the music they are churning out is still the same style pap they were releasing 8 years ago, still dressed in duffle coats, and with mop tops.......

They probably still believe Carnaby Street is cool too!!! :p

Sorry about the rant........ I just hate mediocrity!!
 
Re: jefhatfield

OK iGAV, I'm going to take the bait here. :)
Originally posted by iGAV
Liam Gallagher is the lead singer with Oasis and is a complete c**t......

Just like any good rock & roll star should be. There's this ethos nowadays that says all rock stars have to be well-behaved and humble and modest. Good lord, even the metal-heads! Oasis is and always has been supremely arrogant and proud of it. I guess some people don't like that and some people do.
Oasis are just way over hyped, the main songwriting brother Noel Gallagher rips off everybody and anybody....

Who doesn't? Noel freely admits to this and is better at it than anyone, although I think you're exaggerating it greatly.
and it's true, they are completely stuck in the Beatles tribute wannabe mould!! The only reason you could say they were Beatles like is because A: they've covered most of the Beatles songs and B; they've stolen most of the Beatles music aswell!!

The Beatles covers they've done are totally rocking and sound nothing like the original Beatles material. And they haven't copied nearly "all" of the Beatles' songs... they've done Walrus, Helter Skelter, Ticket to Ride, and a few others. (All live or on b-sides, mind you.) Who doesn't play covers? The only thing Oasis has ever had in common with the Beatles is a couple mop-tops early on, and a few copped chords. Can you name any specific examples of how they rip off the Beatles? Whenever I ask someone this question they can never answer it. In any case - better to rip off the greatest band of all time than to rip off f*cking Creed. :)
C one of the brothers called their son Lennon...... :rolleyes:

What does this have to do with their music? Liam is pretty much nuts anyway... although he does make a great rock star.
They believe they're the new Beatles of our time, or just as important as, now I hate the Beatles with a vengence, and I really believe that Lennon and McCartney to be the 2 most overated songwriters in history.....

Okay, this explains pretty much your whole post I suppose. :)
but the one thing you can say about the Beatles is that they atleast innovated, and thought outside the Mainstream, well, Sgt Peppers did...... they atleast tried to do different things in the name of creativity, and for this I respect the Beatles..... how ever Oasis, just steal peoples riffs......such as Get It On by T-Tex, or Shakermaker, where they stole alot of I'd Like to Teach the world to sing these are just 2 that spring off the top of my head.....

Yup, they do steal riffs. Damn good riffs, and I don't blame 'em. 100% of their material doesn't have to be original for it to be great. I can name plenty of bands who "innovate" like crazy and still suck arse.
Basically Oasis are running very rapidly out of other peoples idea's....... the music they are churning out is still the same style pap they were releasing 8 years ago, still dressed in duffle coats, and with mop tops.......

Good golly, the mop tops have been gone for at least 4 years now. And what does hairstyle have to do with music anyway? If I shave my head am I a Michael Stipe wannabe? If I grow dreadlocks am I nothing but an Adam Duritz ripoff artist? I don't understand. And the music has changed substantially in the past couple years as well. (Although in my opinion the earlier stuff was better.)

I didn't always like Oasis either. I basically had all the same misconceptions you did. I never knew Oasis were still massive in the UK. I thought they were a bunch of Beatles ripoff has-beens. Then I heard their gig at Rock in Rio, and, WOW. That is some f*cking good rock & roll. Oasis are alright in my book. They're bigger now than they ever have been in the UK, and it's a shame that the US is settling for nothing but this nu-metal and post-grunge dreck.

Alex
 
Re: Re: jefhatfield

Originally posted by alex_ant

I didn't always like Oasis either. I basically had all the same misconceptions you did. I never knew Oasis were still massive in the UK. I thought they were a bunch of Beatles ripoff has-beens. Then I heard their gig at Rock in Rio, and, WOW. That is some f*cking good rock & roll. Oasis are alright in my book. They're bigger now than they ever have been in the UK, and it's a shame that the US is settling for nothing but this nu-metal and post-grunge dreck.

Alex

oh my god, new metal sucks

i liked kiss, aerosmith, led zep, and skynard (the original hard rock that gave birth to heavy metal that gave birth to new metal)

while some of the chord progressions of new metal borrows from the classic stuff and the seattle grunge stylings using a lot of 1/2 step progressions and lack of lead guitar, i don't like the cookie monster growling

kitty from canada are a truly great band that mixes the classic, the grunge, and their own new take on new metal and besides slipnot, they are the top record sellers in this genre, but when i hear the vocalist(s) sing, then i hear that growl which just leaves me confused

i must be old or something because metallica and seattle grunge thing of the 90s is the latest stuff i can relate to

hey, 1,200...am i caught up with eyelikeart yet?
 
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