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Due to the staggered launch, has iPhone X hype died down among public?
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This.
we should realise that iPhone X fans (or any other iPhone model) here at macrumors are just about 0.05% of Apples customers worldwide.
if you read the iPhone forums here or the Apple related Reddit subs, you would almost think the whole world is waiting for the iPhone X.
And I guess that's not really the truth
Weaker demand compared to iPhone 8 and 8 Plus.
Artificial delays due to the low supply.
The people who think demand for the X will be anywhere near the 6 or 7 aren't looking at the facts. The facts are already there. But this forum is an echo chamber for those who are already interested in the iPhone X.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/02/iphone-x-survey-rbc/
I went to few sites and the numbers of survey they conducted are out of wack.
Weaker demand compared to iPhone 8 and 8 Plus.
Artificial delays due to the low supply.
The people who think demand for the X will be anywhere near the 6 or 7 aren't looking at the facts. The facts are already there. But this forum is an echo chamber for those who are already interested in the iPhone X.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/02/iphone-x-survey-rbc/
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/02/few...than-the-iphone-7-last-year-survey-shows.html
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/10/03/1150-iphone-x-is-one-shoppers-really-want.html
There need to be more surveys...
The numbers are consistent, it's just the way it's being reported. The MacRumors pie chart is actually very fair. The other news sites are just focusing on certain numbers.
It's like saying the Tesla Model X P100D is the vehicle shoppers really want. Except there were only 12,000 Model X deliveries last quarter. The P100D is a popular model, but only within the subset of Model X buyers.
I'm not doubting MR at all, but looking at how other sites were reporting....kinda of wack (based on their sites that I linked up).
In your honest opinion, do you think supplies would be good for the first round?
Some editors use more clickbait titles than others. Journalism is a business after all.
I suspect shipping dates of the X won't go beyond December. The phone is simply too expensive for most buyers. There's lust for the iPhone X, but no appetite for it.
More specifically, an iPhone forum. And this time a year with iPhone launches , it's really frantic with the amount of threads that are created over one phone is interesting to see.
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From what I read, if you do not get it ordered in the first minute of so, you will not see it till 2018.
The 8 will not distract the one who want the X!
Unless i hear that from tim cook, i'm not gonna believe it. all those analysts talking out of their butt.
I think that this is the calm before the storm. As the pre-order and release dates approach, there'll be more about the X in the tech and general online press. What that will mean in terms of supply vs. sales remains to be seen, but I suspect that Apple will sell every one that's available.
Weaker demand compared to iPhone 8 and 8 Plus.
Artificial delays due to the low supply.
The people who think demand for the X will be anywhere near the 6 or 7 aren't looking at the facts. The facts are already there. But this forum is an echo chamber for those who are already interested in the iPhone X.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/10/02/iphone-x-survey-rbc/
You don't understand...the ipX will be sold out from the scalpers alone.
It's an almost risk-free deal - what they can't sell within the 14 day return window, they simply return for refund. Repeat order process again until demand is satiated.
Even the Apple fans are buying an extra 1-2 phones in hopes of a sale. Selling one probably covers the cost of the ipX for themselves and then some.
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Yes, the general hype has died down for sure. Yes, Apple fans are going to order it and the X might be in short supply for months due to production issues. But that doesn't mean the hype hasn't died down.
In my opinion, the following is not a recipe for maximizing sales of a product:
1. Announcing something 6+ weeks before it's available to preorder (7+ weeks minimum before the product is available to own - if you are lucky)
2. Charging a higher price than most people want to spend
3. Having controversial/missing/flawed features (i.e. no Touch ID, home button, notch, etc.) and giving people a lot of time to discuss these issues and possibly reconsider their potential purchase
#2 and #3 by themselves wouldn't be as big of an issue if #1 didn't exist. If they had announced the X and made it available for preorder at the same time as the 8, then everyone would have jumped on it due to the hype/excitement right after the iPhone event (me included). But...Apple has now given people 6 weeks between the iPhone event and preorder date to reconsider whether they really want/need the X. Many, like myself, have decided to sit this one out and wait for the successor to the X.
The challenge lies in finding the balance between not cannibalizing iPhone 8 sales by making the X available at the same time as the 8. I'm sure Apple weighed their options carefully and decided to take the path that they did for a reason in order to obtain a good balance of iP8 and iPX sales. But that doesn't mean the hype for the X hasn't died down. It certainly has. Don't confuse hype with supply/demand. There will always be a demand for Apple products and the X will be in limited supply for sure. But has the hype died down? Yes.
In my opinion, the following is not a recipe for maximizing sales of a product:
1. Announcing something 6+ weeks before it's available to preorder (7+ weeks minimum before the product is available to own - if you are lucky)
2. Charging a higher price than most people want to spend
3. Having controversial/missing/flawed features (i.e. no Touch ID, home button, notch, etc.) and giving people a lot of time to discuss these issues and possibly reconsider their potential purchase
#2 and #3 by themselves wouldn't be as big of an issue if #1 didn't exist. If they had announced the X and made it available for preorder at the same time as the 8, then everyone would have jumped on it due to the hype/excitement right after the iPhone event (me included). But...Apple has now given people 6 weeks between the iPhone event and preorder date to reconsider whether they really want/need the X. Many, like myself, have decided to sit this one out and wait for the successor to the X.
The challenge lies in finding the balance between not cannibalizing iPhone 8 sales by making the X available at the same time as the 8. I'm sure Apple weighed their options carefully and decided to take the path that they did for a reason in order to obtain a good balance of iP8 and iPX sales. But that doesn't mean the hype for the X hasn't died down. It certainly has. Don't confuse hype with supply/demand. There will always be a demand for Apple products and the X will be in limited supply for sure. But has the hype died down? Yes.
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There will also be TONS of scalpers thanks to Apple's liberal "buy as many as you want" pre-order system. If Apple was smart they'd limit pre-orders to 1 or 2 per address. Sure, it'd limit "families" and whatnot, and some scalpers would still find a way, but right now it's FAR too easy to do.
I plan on buying as many as I can for launch day delivery. If I can get 50 of the darn things I'll buy them all (and let supply and demand sort it out... worst case I'll just return them...). The only thing working against me is how fast the ship dates will slip, so I have a small army of friends/family to help me submit orders at 12AM.
Rest assured that even if the hype is lower, thanks to supply constraints, a flopped (by many accounts) 8 launch, and an obvious opportunity for scalpers to make a TON of $$$ for very little effort (and no financial risk), the X will sell out fast EASILY.
My hunch remains (and I hope I'm wrong) that we'll get "ranges" (just like the watch... delivering 11/3 to 11/17 or some crap). In doing that they'll hope to stem the tide of scalpers, because we do want release day product for maximum $$$. But as long as everyone gets a range, I'll be happy to roll the dice for the first window anyway.
I plan on buying as many as I can for launch day delivery. If I can get 50 of the darn things I'll buy them all (and let supply and demand sort it out... worst case I'll just return them...). The only thing working against me is how fast the ship dates will slip, so I have a small army of friends/family to help me submit orders at 12AM.
Rest assured that even if the hype is lower, thanks to supply constraints, a flopped (by many accounts) 8 launch, and an obvious opportunity for scalpers to make a TON of $$$ for very little effort (and no financial risk), the X will sell out fast EASILY.
My hunch remains (and I hope I'm wrong) that we'll get "ranges" (just like the watch... delivering 11/3 to 11/17 or some crap). In doing that they'll hope to stem the tide of scalpers, because we do want release day product for maximum $$$. But as long as everyone gets a range, I'll be happy to roll the dice for the first window anyway.
Not a fan of that launch so delayed, not ordering for myself but 1 for my family member. Usually i cant wait for pre-order of any new iPhone and orders right away for myself.
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I just marked 29th thanks buddy.
Except it's not per address. I have 5 people in my house alone ready to buy 2 at 12AM. That's not counting the other folks I have lined up to help at different addresses (friends and family, who are all happy to order an "extra" one for me as long as I tip them a bottle of wine).
It's not going to be a big problem until the morning after, when people realize it'll be a 6-8 week wait at minimum and if they want a launch day phone they'll need to pony up $$$$.
Going to be fun!
(Should be 2 per address. Period. Especially for specialty situations like this one... Yes, people would still find a way around it, but it would mitigate the damage)
It's quiet, because people are working over-time to pay for this X iPhone. Soon, there will be uproar and these threads will be flooded with repetitious nonsense topics about returning their X.
Honestly, what you've described is not a big deal.
The people that want a launch day phone, they order at 12:01 a.m. There's enough retail locations for people to line up at AT&T, Verizon, and China Mobile the days and weeks after launch.
Limiting "per person" works. If you've seen the level of scalping that occurs in Hong Kong and China, it's no comparison to individual scalping. The typical organized scalping company hires 500-1,000 people all wearing uniforms waiting at the store and ordering online. And this was back during the iPhone 4 days. During iPhone 7, it was estimated close to 100,000 units were shipped from China to Russia in the first week as iPhone 7 was available in China first.
Limiting "per address" doesn't work because of deliveries to the workplace or large facilities. Apple isn't going to prevent deliveries to several hundred people working in a building in on different floors or departments.
Yeah, bit the bullet today: decided this is the upgrade year to sit it out.
VirginMobile (Australia) had a three day deal with huge data for a SIM only 12 month contract, 20% off and bonus data. They've been pretty stringy with data for a while so may be testing the water.
Weighed up upgrading to an 8+ but don't see that much added value to lock me into a two year contract. Can't see X being available in a timely manner (who wants to get a two year contract 30% into the cycle?) and the price is very much "aspirational".
Figure next September Apple might have learned their lesson and ensured sufficient stock upon announcement and FaceID will be tested and working well and filtered down to all/more phones.
If today's reports are accurate and 7's are outselling 8's, then Apple might learn that having too many products causes issues. If they had ditched the 7 then maybe they'd be selling more 8's...
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Demand after 24 hours is going to really drop off when people see they blowout date. You really want to wait 8-12 weeks?