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@ihakim is correct. An old SLR trick when shooting through a chain link fence was to get up close to it, like lens touching it close, and a lot of times you couldn’t see the fence. Doesn’t sound right but it is. The lens cannot resolve the dust or even a fence that close. I am not telling you not to exchange your phone if it bothers you.
 
@ihakim is correct. An old SLR trick when shooting through a chain link fence was to get up close to it, like lens touching it close, and a lot of times you couldn’t see the fence. Doesn’t sound right but it is. The lens cannot resolve the dust or even a fence that close. I am not telling you not to exchange your phone if it bothers you.
I don’t care as long as it is not interfering with picture quality
 
Enjoy your phone don’t worry about I stopped worrying about since last yesr my deal max had dust in lens never exchanged at Apple and my 11 pro max is fine.
 
Thx for the article. But the author is referring to SLR lenses. They are way bigger and I would assume that a small spec of dust doesn’t do any harm in such a huge lens. But the ones used in IPhones are smaller by far so one could think the problem gets bigger. Correct me if I’m wrong.

As a photographer I can attest that dust in SLR lenses can be a PITA depending on WHERE the dust is located. 99% of the time the dust isn’t an issue. While I’ve never had dust “ruin” a photo I do have all my equipment cleaned yearly.

Now I do make money from photography so my investments turn into revenue. This also includes iPhoneography. I’ve had several iPhones that I could see dust or some foreign debris but it never impacted the quality of my photos.

There’s also never, let me say that again, NEVER going to be a perfectly assembled iPhone. Never ever. With that being said, if the dust is that big a deal to you and you feel you must do something about it, then by all means go for it. You spent $1000-ish for your device and should get a device that makes you happy. But at the same time you run the risk of getting another device that you may also not find acceptable.

The bottom line is, it’s roll of the dice.
 
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Short update: Had time to check the other lenses too: All of them have dust in them. The tele lens 10+ specs. So I went to make some test shots on a bright blue German Indian SummersSky. You can see the result below: The dust is in Frame - not focused but there. So I called up Apple Care and they will swap it in the coming days via UPS. IPhone lottery....
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Discovered one spec of dust under the glass of the top lense of my new 11Pro. You can barely see it with the naked eye - only under a spy glass. Took some test pictures and it doesn’t show. Otherwise the phone is perfect. Coming from pro photography I know that there is no such a thing as a dust free lense. Is this the same with IPhones? Is it worth swapping an otherwise perfect phone? What do you think?

don’t worry winter is coming soon it will freeze and go away. By the way whoever put these specs inside camera must be a genius.
 
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don’t worry winter is coming soon it will freeze and go away. By the way whoever put these specs inside camera must be a genius.
Good one 🙃 The genius placed little presents in all three cameras... and it is not even Close to XMAS. Now I entered the IPhone lottery. Hope the genius in China had a day off when the produced my next 11 Pro.
 
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Good one 🙃 The genius placed little presents in all three cameras... and it is not even Close to XMAS. Now I entered the IPhone lottery. Hope the genius in China had a day off when the produced my next 11 Pro.
Haha very good reply! 👍😄
 
Update:Apple exchanged the phone and sent me another one. So far no dust and I‘ll keep my fingers of the magnifying lens :rolleyes:
I sended mine back. (Pro Max 256gb space gray). They accepted the return without question. Ordered a new one and now waiting on it. (In the Europe the 256gb SG Pro Maxes are hard to get, fingers crossed i have mine next week)
 
Another update: Happyness over. The replacement phone Apple sent me has a big scratch in the glass of the wide angle lens. Going back! How can it be the QC missed that one? Ok you can only see it when light comes from the side...but it is there and should have never left the factory. I know: There is no such thing as a perfect iPhone but big fat scratches are not acceptable. Phone number 3 is on its' way. 😡
 
Just got back from the Apple Service, they don't have the tools to service iPhone 11 Pro's atm.
Soooo, ordered new one and going to return this one then. It's a shot in the dark but lets hope.




My coworker has 300€ Samsung. It has triple camera and yes, in terms of performance/screen/camera/battery life etc. it's like comparing Ferrari to Volkswagen.

But, i can get 3-4 phones with the price of my 11 Pro Max, it doesn't have single spec of dust under the lens.

Volkswagens are far more practical and useful than Ferraris and better to drive 99% of the time...
 
Another update: Happyness over. The replacement phone Apple sent me has a big scratch in the glass of the wide angle lens. Going back! How can it be the QC missed that one? Ok you can only see it when light comes from the side...but it is there and should have never left the factory. I know: There is no such thing as a perfect iPhone but big fat scratches are not acceptable. Phone number 3 is on its' way. 😡

3 iPhones? That’s between you and Apple, but when you mass produce a Phone into hundreds of thousands that are produced every single day (sometimes 500,000 units a day), you can’t expect devices to be without some flaws, and that depends on the eye that can actually spot the flaw. Some people are more observant than others, and are willing to overlook certain imperfections. (I.e Rough edges, a micro scratch, ect.)
 
I can understand why you would think about it in that way, but the size of the lens isn't the reason why the dust doesn't matter. Instead, it's the object distance from the lens and aperture. If you are focusing on an object that is 10 meters away, the dust spec which is 1mm away from the lens is imperceptible because it blurs out of focus. It is physically (and I mean actually from a physics perspective) impossibly for the iPhone camera lens to focus on an object that is 1mm away from it. That is why unless you have tons of dust that is covering most of the sensor, a few specs are invisible and have no impact on image quality in a fixed large aperture lens (like yours). That is what the author of that article was trying to prove - dust doesn't matter and even objects as large as a torn piece of paper don't matter unless it's significantly covering a good portion of the lens and shooting with an f stop of 1/11 (which is impossible on your lens). You can't tell me your dust in relation to your lens size is equivalent to 3/8" pieces of paper on a DSLR lens (which still didn't impact image quality with a large aperture).
You are 100% correct. The most dust will do is restrict light capability and even at that, it takes a lot of dust.
 
3 iPhones? That’s between you and Apple, but when you mass produce a Phone into hundreds of thousands that are produced every single day (sometimes 500,000 units a day), you can’t expect devices to be without some flaws, and that depends on the eye that can actually spot the flaw. Some people are more observant than others, and are willing to overlook certain imperfections. (I.e Rough edges, a micro scratch, ect.)
Sure - but Apple charges premium prices - and if I pay a premium price, I expect a premium product. If they can't meet premium quality standards they should either lower their prices or have a serious word with their manufacturers in China to raise quality. Would you accept a brand new car with a crack in the windshield and a car seller arguing "sorry for the crack but these windshields are mass produced so you can't expect them to be without flaw? I don't think so. A micro scratch is no problem at all, but 10+ dust specs in all 3 cameras that show in pictures (see post 31 above) or a big scratch in one lens out of the box are not acceptable.
 
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You are 100% correct. The most dust will do is restrict light capability and even at that, it takes a lot of dust.
May I draw your attention to post 31. The picture was shot with freshly cleaned lenses against a bright sky. You can clearly see the dust spot in the picture. I talked you our best cameraman (I work with a TV network) and he said, that it is possible for dust to show up in frame, even if it is this close to the aperture. The picture proofed this ....unfortunately.
 
May I draw your attention to post 31. The picture was shot with freshly cleaned lenses against a bright sky. You can clearly see the dust spot in the picture. I talked you our best cameraman (I work with a TV network) and he said, that it is possible for dust to show up in frame, even if it is this close to the aperture. The picture proofed this ....unfortunately.
It looked to me to be on the sensor itself and not the lens. I guess that is a moot point. I have never seen a sensor resolve dirt on lens and I'm a retired Nikon Pro. But hey, it's your phone and you need to be happy for sure.
 
It looked to me to be on the sensor itself and not the lens. I guess that is a moot point. I have never seen a sensor resolve dirt on lens and I'm a retired Nikon Pro. But hey, it's your phone and you need to be happy for sure.
You could be right. Our cameramen argued, that dirt in on the lens will cause blurring and other effects. If it is on the sensor - one more argument to exchange it. What do you think?
 
Update: Got my Space Gray 256gb Pro Max today:
No scratches/dust on the lens. (i'm glad i exchanged it)


And just to those who said dust spec won't affect the camera quality. I don't know if its a placebo effect. But to my eyes my 0.5x -camera isn't "AS" blurry as the previous one. In the previous one the distortion was way more noticeable. I think it had issues focusing. (Previous one had noticeable dust spec under the glass)
 
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Update: Got my Space Gray 256gb Pro Max today:
No scratches/dust on the lens. (i'm glad i exchanged it)


And just to those who said dust spec won't affect the camera quality. I don't know if its a placebo effect. But to my eyes my 0.5x -camera isn't "AS" blurry as the previous one. In the previous one the distortion was way more noticeable. I think it had issues focusing.
Same over here...although I am already on phone number 3 ....;)
 
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Same over here...although I am already on phone number 3 ....;)

Haha :D In my country (Finland) some people haven't received their 256gb maxes yet.... Even tho they ordered it in 13.9 on the preorder day.

So i was lucky i got mine exchanged so "quickly"

But good thing that yours is now perfect. Enjoy it! :)
 
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