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Neither. I learned from good teachers.

Edit: I missed that you completely misread what I said. I said of all the education you have received in the last 5 years that wasn't from direct human contact, how much of it was from a computer screen? Human interaction isn't being replaced afaik. If the only learning you do these days is from someone sitting you down and telling you, I feel bad for you...unless of course you're still in school, in which case it's moderately okay. Even still, in college I learned more from a computer then I did from a professor. Sure, the professor was invaluable, but as a quantity of time spent interacting with a professor, I did very little.

It's pure folly to think children can teach themselves the basics without guidance; someone to ask them questions, and you, know, help them learn how to think critically. It's why teachers and schools have existed since ancient times..

And from what is in the article there is nothing to make me think teachers will be less involved with the students. In fact it seems the teachers could be more directly involved and interacting with students.

"The school building itself will be open from 7:30 AM to 6:30 PM every day of the year except Christmas and New Year's Day, with children free to come and go as they please as long as they are present during the core school day that runs from 10:30 AM to 3:00 PM.

Under the model of individualized instruction, students will learn through iPad apps at their own pace, with teachers serving as coaches to help them reach goals and advance to subsequent levels.

Teachers, children, and parents meet to discuss goals for each six-week period, setting up standards to help students gain the knowledge and skills to move on to the next level."​

Gadgets can be great tools of eduction... the abacus or a TRS-80 or an iPad. But none of those can replace a human teacher.

Exactly. But I don't get the impression that the iPad is replacing teachers time, only old tools. Education is still squarely in the hands of the teacher, student, and parents, as it should be. I don't see anything in here that says that when a student has a question, the teacher can't whiteboard an answer for the student, do you? The difference is that now all the students that do get the lesson the first time around can keep going, while the student with question can get some solid 1v1 time with a teacher.

Unless of course you know something in addition to this that isn't stated in the article?

Edit: We used to have days like this in college. It was a "work day" where we plugged away at assignments in the computer labs and the professor was present to assist and answer questions as needed. These were often far more valuable days then when the professor lectured for 50 minutes on stuff I could read in 20 minutes.

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Because a meeting every 6 months and parental involvement will make them want to learn. :rolleyes:

It's every 6 weeks, and the lack of parental involvement is a huge factor in the education of young minds. The United States would do well to have more parental involvement in education.
 
Doesn't really sound like a school more like a daycare with Ipads and some tutoring. This would be GREAT as a supplemental after school program but not as a developing child's primary source of learning and discipline.

Yep, agreed, would definitely not have this as the main educational program.
 
From my experience "go at your own pace" schools just make people slack off and fall below average.

Because your experiences are in the USA. We are a lazy, arrogant, uneducated population of Me First's, Please and Thank You no longer exist. We want to kick everyone off the curb every chance we get. We piss and moan at the Government every chance we get, yet will stick out the hand when in Crisis, always saying "it was not enough."

I think this is a very creative experiment with voluntary participants. I'll wager it will be positive. How could it not be? It's not in the US. :apple:
 
"Some 1,000 children aged four to 12 will attend the schools, without notebooks, books or backpacks. Each of them, however, will have his or her own iPad."

Worst idea I've ever heard of.

Why? Imagine the reverse:

"Some 1000 children aged four to 12 will attend the schools, without modern learning tools such as an iPad. Each of them, however, will have all learning material printed in large volumes that they will be required to carry to and from school in backpacks"

Some of the reservations in this thread are legitimate concerns. Others I honestly don't get. As a young adult computing devices are my window to the world and further education. When I work on my Arduino project or replace the injectors in my car, I go to the internet, often through tools like an iPad, to get the education I require to proceed. I do not ask a "teacher" to sit me down with 30 other people for 50 minutes and talk at me about something I grasp all but 5% of before the lecture began.

If a more educated/skilled person would like to work along side me after I consume as much knowledge as I can via modern tools, great! And it sounds like that is what they are trying to do. Have core hours with teachers available to answer and assist any student that needs it. This is the way the rest of life works.

Large class rooms with many students is a relatively modern invention in order to get everyone the same education without enough teachers. Trades and internships are about trying, and asking for help when needed from a professional that understands a little better. This is also the way most career development works if you are in a field that requires further education.
 
This as been tried so many times. And it WORKS! But only for a tiny portion of students.

Here we go again.



Thomas

If you give students a single random rock, a tiny portion might learn A LOT about earth science. That does not make it a good thing to do.
 
There will be no blackboards, chalk or classrooms, homeroom teachers, formal classes, lesson plans, seating charts, pens, teachers teaching from the front of the room, schedules, parent-teacher meetings, grades, recess bells, fixed school days and school vacations. If a child would rather play on his or her iPad instead of learning, it'll be okay. And the children will choose what they wish to learn based on what they happen to be curious about.

LOL sounds like everyone's dream 'school'... if we were the pupils. :D
 
This is not a new idea. Look up Montesori or Steiner schooling. Obviously it's not going to work for every child, but neither does traditional schooling.
 
Won't happen in the USA for years to come.

Los Angels School district bought "tens of thousands" of iPads so that after summer there will be enough to give one iPad to every student. So it will happen here in the US in September 2013.

THey did a pilot program last year using several different brands of tablets and selects Apple.

What matters most is what is printed on the page, not if the page is made from glass or paper. LA is NOT going with a "learn at your own pace" method, but they are introducing iPads on a very large scale and very soon, months from now.
 
If you give students a single random rock, a tiny portion might learn A LOT about earth science. That does not make it a good thing to do.

It depends on what you do AFTER you give them the rock. If you do nothing them almost nothing happens. But you can have the kid place the rock in a tub of water and measure how much the water goes up and let them learn about volume and from there to density. Measure different rocks andsee that density is different. They can break the rocks and look inside. You can teach chemistry. you can make a pendulum you can measure how long it take for fall through 1 meter..... plus 100 other things. But you need a teacher, a 9 year old left alone with a rock will not re-discover all of 20th century science by herself. Not even the smartest kid could do that. But you need a teacher who understands both how humans learn and the science to lead them and then a kid with a rock will learn quite a lot.
 
we have a generation that can't write a letter (but they text like crazy), and now this...

and their texting is atrocious. But hey we have dictionaries making things like Tweet, LOL, emoticons, actual words now. So instead of instilling good grammar into these kids we're just willy nilly changing the language to suit them - because god forbid parents try and teach their kids anything.
 
I think bad idea- I hope someone linked this already but didn't see it. This type of education has been thought and tried for many years. This is what America is getting into blindly so the rich can profit off education. Think about it- imagine educating through an iPad for 12 years? No way- its not for 95% of people. Another way for the rich and powerful to make it easier to trick the public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTH3ob1IRFo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No sure if the link works- google " the teaching machine"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTH3ob1IRFo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
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In a discussion about education, THIS is what you post? Do you realize MR offers you an opportunity to preview your post before submission?

We are all castigating the poster who used hear instead of here, but your post... did you dictate that through Siri?

Was it sarcasm? Trolling? I am seriously curious.
If English is not your first language I apologize.

I apologize for my poor grammar! I posted that shortly after I woke up so my brain was still hazy :D. I think I'll go fix that now...lol
 
“It sounds old-fashioned when you put forth the argument that you lose connection with the past. But then there’s also that scientific aspect of it. We don’t know what’s going to happen later on if you don’t teach children how to write on paper or how to write cursive.”

—Kathleen Wright, textbook publisher

This is also one of the reasons why it would be difficult to create such a structure in the US. Book publishers are like Big Oil, but in schools.

Look we already have too many people with chicken scratch for handwriting, no need to compound the problem.

The good thing is a school like this will only catch on in the West. Even if kids in Asia have iPads, they will still learn how to write (many with a pen and brush mind you) because of the value that handwriting does convey on a developing mind and its contributions to a culture.
 
Mine are abysmal... I've used a computer since I was 12 in 1984... But I can still write well, if I take the time...

I do think that those are skills that we should still have even in this day and age. How else would you "write" your name in the snow while drunk? :D

My snow writing skills look more like hieroglyphics!!
 
This could work out if the child is tested every year with the same standardized tests all other children at the same age receive. If he/she scores in the 90th percentile or higher, they continue in the SJ School, if not, then they go back to regular school. The top 10% of kids could really thrive in such an environment.
 
From the original article:

"Debbie Hengeveld, 41, found the concept so convincing that she promptly enrolled [...] her seven-year-old daughter Freeke"

Sounds like a perfect name for a student at those schools...
 
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