Been close 3 times now, it isn't a scary thing now it is just something that will happen. Not existing didn't hurt and I am sure it wont hurt when I am dead. I wont be aware of it and there isn't anything afterwards so I am not going to regret anything. I'll just cease to be and that's ok for me as I'll continue to enjoy the time I have just now.
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I don't think most people fear dying as much as they fear the unknown after dying. What if you were worshiping the wrong god? What if you didn't believe in a god and you now discover there is a hell and heaven? What if its nothing, you just cease to exist? Whats on the other side?
Living and existing is not the same thing. I don't mean to sound morbid but we all can take comfort in knowing that existing as an old person is not fun anyway.
And I certainly wouldn't get my panties in a bunch out of fear of "having wrong/no religion".
Then I get to live forever in heaven or hell.... looks like a win win. There is ether nothing or an eternal something.
The following video presentations are not about religion AT ALL. I would NEVER post anything religious, because I am NOT, and never have been, religious. They are all the complete opposite of religious. Amy Call, in the first video, may sound as if she is heading in a religious direction at first, but she isn't. She's only setting the stage as a contrast for her entirely non-religious experience -- an experience that caused her to abandon religion. Please read the rest of my post below the videos before you watch any of them -- that is if you intend to watch any of them.
Amy Call - formerly religious; saw mathematical equations
Nancy Rynes - Atheist / Scientist
Peter Anthony - Freelance image consultant with CBS News; saw mathematical equations
Richard Kelley
Starting in November 2012, and continuing for about five or six months, I read roughly 500 of the several thousand personal near-death-experience stories (NDEs) here. Reading only 5, 10 or 20 of them would be completely insufficient to overcome a skeptic's doubts; however, a person who believes in behaving like an entirely impartial juror or researcher, who is willing to listen with an open mind to that many "witnesses" (which is not a common trait in the 21st century), should be convinced after reading at least 50 to 100 of them. Most of them are only a few paragraphs long.
No..., the worn-out, simplistic, subjective claim of "lack of oxygen to the brain" cannot account for the vast majority of these people's experiences, such as being told something as specific as, "It's not your time yet. You must go back," after which they were immediately back in their bodies and awake. An unconscious or dead person cannot know when he or she is going to wake up before he or she wakes up, much less be told by "someone up there" that that is going to happen, yet almost all of them saw themselves coming back just before they woke up. Lack of oxygen cannot account for at least 90% of them feeling a totally indescribable (they all say human language cannot describe it) intensity of love that makes earthly love a joke by comparison. Lack of oxygen cannot explain how many of them saw their hospital rooms from above and described (in detail) seeing and hearing things that they could not have seen or heard while dead, especially things that were out of their range of vision in bed. Most of them were so accurate that the nurses were surprised, and many of the doctors got angry over their accuracy and left the room.
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I remember an Egyptian lady saying she saw her husband and kids around her bed from above as soon as she passed out. She described exactly what clothes they were wearing and all. Its a bit strange most people who claim near death experience have almost same kind of experiences and stories.
I really appreciate your kind and open-minded reply. It's becoming more and more of a rarity these days on many topics on many forums. Thank you. Although I had already long believed in the truth of NDE accounts, my reading of several hundred of them in 2012-13 really did remove all last lingering doubts that I may have had about "what comes after," and it put me at peace to a degree that I had never experienced before. It continues to this day (although I still get very frustrated with the "anonymous loser" role I was selected to play here on earth, LOL 😉). The four videos in my post above have just been icing on the cake. They are among the best of a large selection that I watched between late 2018 early 2020.
He really is a fun person to listen to, isn't he? I wish I could speak as clearly and concisely as he does.
I don't get it, are they saying their NDE made them abandon religion? How does that work if atheist believe there is nothing on the other side you just cease to exist!?
Religion is composed of man-made and societal rules, while spirituality is an entirely personal experience (or it's just a personal belief if you haven't yet had an experience). Most atheists and religious people who have had NDEs (that I've read or heard) became spiritual after they went to "heaven" and met deceased family members, "higher beings," "angels" or, in some cases, "God" (who is also known as "Source" or simply "the white light"). You won't regret watching the videos. They explain it better than I can, at least not without my writing way more than most people would care to read (I'm chronically wordy). Maybe watch videos #2 through #4 first, and save #1 for last.
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I am saying that old people are unlikely to be afraid to die. Did you read the posts from people who are working in ICU/hospitals?
Not at all. That is what makes life worth living. Get out and do things! No save games or Extra Lives in the game of life.
If I may recommend: Then do something that lasts.
Write a book.
Create a scholarship.
Build some software.
Make a better car company.
Create a private rocket company!
I'm not afraid of death. I certainly am curious as to what there is, if anything after death. As for death itself however, it will happen just as it has to all of those I have known who have passed. I recall a conversation I had with an elderly fellow in his mid 90s back during the early 70s, he told me something like "I have done enough for one lifetime, if there is another I will do it again until I have passed my usefulness as I have in this life.". While I am not in my 90s nor have I been through nearly as much as someone born in the 1870s would have been, I still feel as if I have done enough good for the world that I can die with a positive experience overall.
Seriously life expectancy for humans should've been at least 600 years to 800. If some animals can live up to 300 years doing nothing why not humans ?
Ohhhh yes...life is too short...65 -75 is just too short. You won't even have time to circle around the globe.
Ohhhh yes...life is too short...65 -75 is just too short. You won't even have time to circle around the globe.
But tortoises don’t drink or smoke. They live for so long because everything takes them so long!
If you truly mean that, then I say, with the sincerest and most well meaning of intentions: I hope you will consider reading my first post on this page (#55) and clicking all of the links. Please consider doing so even if you are 70-ish% to 100% convinced that the people at those links are entirely wrong, and, therefore, you intend to debunk them to oblivion. There is only one catch: As in any fair courtroom trial, you, as an impartial juror (or even as a partial one), should listen to all of the witnesses (click every link) before you make your final decision. One witness can never be as convincing as multiple witnesses, and in this case there are tens of thousands of witnesses, most of whom saw, heard and felt the very same things, and later gave extremely detailed descriptions. Such highly detailed (and often nearly identical) descriptions are not possible with dreams and hallucinations, as they are always vague, senseless, confusing and hard to remember afterward (one would think that they would be even more vague, senseless, confusing and hard to remember -- and probably also terrifying -- if they had truly been just the result of oxygen deprivation).
I hope you have a great day.
That's true, but only if a person could remain in his/her 20s or 30s, physically speaking, for at least 95% of those 600 to 800 years
, and if the world wasn't full of such powerful control freaks who simply cannot fathom the thought of leaving all of us alone to live our own lives as we see fit.That being said, even if one could remain physically young for that long, this "Groundhog Day" charade can start to get just a bit tedious after the first 18,000 to 20,000 days.
[Years-to-Days Converter]P.S.: The plot of the novel Replay, by Ken Grimwood, is not exactly the same thing that you are talking about, but I still highly recommend it. It receives 4.16 out of 5 stars at Goodreads, based on 29,369 ratings. There is also an audiobook version.
You don’t have to smoke to die early , i know many healthy people who never smoked or drunk but couldn't make it to 70. Its how we were built.
Yep.....our physical build quality is very poor but it was done for a reason by whoever engineered it. Imagine world population if life expectancy was 600 years for humans ?