E3 2010: Portal 2 for Mac, iPhone Games from Square Enix, SEGA and Capcom

[0098386]

That has to be the stupidist thing I have ever read, everything you have said in this post is wrong, from your lack of knowledge of multithreaded software, to your knowledge (you are obviously a 360 owner) of PS3 gaming.

Barring literally 1 or 2 PS3 games, Xbox games usually look better. It's widely known that it has the better GPU whilst the PS3 has the better CPU.

Also BLEH to Sonic 4. It looks terrible, amateur almost. More like a fangame than an official Sonic Team product.

Excellent news on WotL too. I've got that for the PSP and the sequel on DS. Both quite old but outstanding games.

 

[jfanning]

Barring literally 1 or 2 PS3 games, Xbox games usually look better. It's widely known that it has the better GPU whilst the PS3 has the better CPU.

Look better than what? The multi platform games are coded to the lower console, this round it is the 360, the only examples for these I have seen where the PS3 version of not as good would be the ones that EA has been allowed to touch, it is nothing more than poor coding by the developer. And games like LBP, GT, Drakes Fortune, Killzone etc, there is nothing wrong with them

 

[swagi]

Reasons why the PS3 sucks:
- No Gears of War.

- No Alan Wake.

- Less games in total.

- Every game that's available for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 looks and runs crappier on the PS3 because of the PS3's hardware architecture which is suboptimal for games. (Games don't care for the number of CPU cores because they cannot use them anyway. They care for the processing performance of a single core, and here the Xbox 360 is clearly superior to the PS3 - the Xbox 360 is equivalent to a 3+ GHz Triple Core G5 PowerMac.)

We all know that it's the PS3's biggest selling point, but no, in an age of digital online distribution, the BluRay argument just doesn't count anymore.

So which system sucks again?

But here's the good news: Both consoles are available for the price of an iPod Touch. If you're serious about gaming and really want to play those two PS3-exclusive titles, go ahead and buy both consoles.

That has to be the stupidist thing I have ever read, everything you have said in this post is wrong, from your lack of knowledge of multithreaded software, to your knowledge (you are obviously a 360 owner) of PS3 gaming.



Showing your lack of knowledge again I see, we are no where near the age of online distribution, sure you can get some good mini games that way, but there is no way I am going to download a 25-40GB game.

Actually Winni is right about the graphics being subpar on the PS3 versions. There are a lot of video's online for many games showing the graphical difference.

If you look at a history of systems the harder ones to program for that had multiple processing units (Sega Saturn comes to mind) they always had less games and were more expensive to develop for. (Although I dearly love Sega Saturn )

I'm super excited for Portal 2 and Secret of Mana

Barring literally 1 or 2 PS3 games, Xbox games usually look better. It's widely known that it has the better GPU whilst the PS3 has the better CPU.

Also BLEH to Sonic 4. It looks terrible, amateur almost. More like a fangame than an official Sonic Team product.

Excellent news on WotL too. I've got that for the PSP and the sequel on DS. Both quite old but outstanding games.

Look better than what? The multi platform games are coded to the lower console, this round it is the 360, the only examples for these I have seen where the PS3 version of not as good would be the ones that EA has been allowed to touch, it is nothing more than poor coding by the developer. And games like LBP, GT, Drakes Fortune, Killzone etc, there is nothing wrong with them

Guys - couldn't we just agree on the fact, that each of the consoles has their own benefit. There actually is no better or worse.

I love my 360, though the sound of it sucks bigtime. I'd like to buy a PS3 for GoW 3 alone.

But I so would miss my GoW on 360 (isn't that a funny coincidence - best titles with same acronym).

 

[CartoonPaint]

I want Both!

Wow Portal 2 looks crazy cool. Talk about pushing the graphics! Also who wouldn't want Sonic!

 

[69650]

iPad Games

Having played with it for a while now I think the iPad will be a great hit with gamers. I just hope the games makers don't rack up their prices to PS3/XBox levels. £10 for a game is ok but £30 is not (for me anyway).

 

[alent1234]

That has to be the stupidist thing I have ever read, everything you have said in this post is wrong, from your lack of knowledge of multithreaded software, to your knowledge (you are obviously a 360 owner) of PS3 gaming.



Showing your lack of knowledge again I see, we are no where near the age of online distribution, sure you can get some good mini games that way, but there is no way I am going to download a 25-40GB game.

PS3 has been known to be notoriously difficult to develop for. developing games for multi-core is very hard due to timing thread issues between the cores

 

[jfanning]

PS3 has been known to be notoriously difficult to develop for. developing games for multi-core is very hard due to timing thread issues between the cores

I didn't say it wasn't, I replied to the statement

Games don't care for the number of CPU cores because they cannot use them anyway. They care for the processing performance of a single core, and here the Xbox 360 is clearly superior to the PS3 - the Xbox 360 is equivalent to a 3+ GHz Triple Core G5 PowerMac.)

Which is incorrect, games can, and need to handle multithreading, any issue handling timing issues between cores is very different than multithreading.

 

[carmenodie]

Man Sony sucks. Even though that was an off topic comment. They do.
Apple is putting all types of hurt on their a**. And yesterday they didn't offer any new psp hardware at their little conference.
I can't wait for the iphone 4 and all the new stuff. I even heard that iworks 4 will hit the iphone 4. If that is true it will be off the hook.

 

[Yvan256]

Obligatory Slashdot-style comment

Since Valve gave everyone a free copy of Portal during Steam's launch, you all should be familiar with the title by now.

My Mac mini only has a GMA950, you insensitive clod!

 

[davidwarren]

I was about 3/4 through portal when I figured out I was playing the actual game and not just training levels.

 

[cleanup]

The Portal 2 teaser looks amazing!

Also, I owned an Xbox 360 for years, and switched to a PS3 recently. I never heard anything about the PS3 being graphically deficient; in fact, it was always the other way around, and any time I saw one of those graphics comparison videos of some cross-platform game (like Batman: Arkham Asylum or CoD:MW2) it would look the same, and people's comments reflected that.

I mostly switched because I like the PS3 exclusives more than the Xbox 360 exclusives (many of which eventually make their way to PC anyways).

 

[cleanup]

I was about 3/4 through portal when I figured out I was playing the actual game and not just training levels.

The best part of the game is when you "escape." I knew I wasn't giving up without a fight!

 

[saxon48]

This is gonna be shweet!

 

[tigress666]

awesome, its great square enix is bringing more game to the iphone!

Hell yeah! I'm very excited about this.

Now if they could just port FFVII (yes, I'm one of those. I might have considered the PS3 or whatever game system if they put FFVII on it with much better graphics. But hey, FFVII even with original graphics would be awesome to have on my iphone).

 

[L-U-R-C-H]

Portal 2 looks like it's going to be amazing!

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

Is it just me or did the Portal 2 video remind anyone else of the Metroid Prime series? The music and organic stuff tearing down a sterile structure and sound effects all reminded me of Metroid Prime... I'M PUMPED!

I think the few years of crappy games is over and I can finally be happy to be a gaming Apple / Nintendo fanboy again.

 

[Cameront9]

I was about 3/4 through portal when I figured out I was playing the actual game and not just training levels.

Hah, same here. I knew the game had a reputation for being short, but I was flying through the first couple of chambers, so I thought there must be 19 "training" levels before you get to the rest of them.

Releasing the game for free for Mac users was probably one of the greatest marketing moves EVER.

 

[Wildog27]

Is it too early to call this trailer... a triumph?

 

[damacus]

Is it too early to call this trailer... a triumph?

I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.

 

[gloss]

Hah, same here. I knew the game had a reputation for being short, but I was flying through the first couple of chambers, so I thought there must be 19 "training" levels before you get to the rest of them.

That said, I thought the length and the pacing of the game were essentially immaculate. There's something to be said for something so short yet so tight.

 

[kingtj]

This debate won't ever end .... but ....

I bought my PS3 based purely on the hardware I was getting for my dollar ... not on the idea that the entire platform would suddenly "suck" if certain titles weren't released for it!

As a Mac user, I would think you'd understand that mentality. Otherwise, would you have gone around declaring that "The Mac sucks as a computer system, because it lacks HUNDREDS, or even THOUSANDS of game titles they made for Windows over the years!"?

The point is, it's not a perfect world. But I looked at my own situation and said, "Would I rather have Sony's new system that's clearly being sold at a net loss, in order to give me a blu-ray disc player (which I don't own yet), plus a processor architecture which is new and different than the other computer equipment I have around the house? Or would I buy Microsoft's latest version of THEIR gaming system, which has big white game controllers on it I find really ugly-looking and has a poor reputation for reliability, plus no blu-ray?"

And honestly, at least SOME of the big titles PS3s didn't get seem to only be because Microsoft paid developers off to AVOID writing the PS3 version! I know this happened when they wanted exclusive rights to the add-on content for the latest Grand Theft Auto game, for example. That's B.S. and is further reason I wouldn't want to give MS my money for their system.

Reasons why the PS3 sucks:
- No Gears of War.

- No Alan Wake.

- Less games in total.

- Every game that's available for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 looks and runs crappier on the PS3 because of the PS3's hardware architecture which is suboptimal for games. (Games don't care for the number of CPU cores because they cannot use them anyway. They care for the processing performance of a single core, and here the Xbox 360 is clearly superior to the PS3 - the Xbox 360 is equivalent to a 3+ GHz Triple Core G5 PowerMac.)

We all know that it's the PS3's biggest selling point, but no, in an age of digital online distribution, the BluRay argument just doesn't count anymore.

So which system sucks again?

But here's the good news: Both consoles are available for the price of an iPod Touch. If you're serious about gaming and really want to play those two PS3-exclusive titles, go ahead and buy both consoles.

 

[MorphingDragon]

Reasons why the PS3 sucks:
- No Gears of War.

Who cares GOW sucked after the first One. For the sake of fanboyism IM goind to say Uncharted. (Unsurprisingly the Windows version of GOW was better waaaay better than the 360 version)

- No Alan Wake.

Heavy rain.

- Less games in total.

Like you're going to own 100% of them. No you'll own a respectable amount like every other gamer. The Wii has less games than the 360 or the PS3, yet its outselling both of them combined.

- Every game that's available for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 looks and runs crappier on the PS3 because of the PS3's hardware architecture which is suboptimal for games. (Games don't care for the number of CPU cores because they cannot use them anyway. They care for the processing performance of a single core, and here the Xbox 360 is clearly superior to the PS3 - the Xbox 360 is equivalent to a 3+ GHz Triple Core G5 PowerMac.)

Your lack of knowledge of Multithreaded processing is astounding for someone who claims to be a programmer. Any program can take advantage of multiprocessing, even games.

So games like Crysis, UT3, Bioshock aren't multithreaded and multicore aware?

BTW, the Cell IS more powerful than the Xenon, and un-optimised for gaming makes no sense. The Xenon was a spinoff from the Cell's early development. The Cell has the power of a 3.2GHZ PPC core with a GPU tacked onto it.

32-bit FP madd
PS2 CPU - 6.0 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 2.932 GFLOPS

PS3 Cell - 204.8 GFLOPS
Xbox CPU - 115.2 GFLOPS

- Note this link is not the source, my Univeristy is.

http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/f/why...a-20071220152324335039/g-20060314115917309058

We all know that it's the PS3's biggest selling point, but no, in an age of digital online distribution, the BluRay argument just doesn't count anymore.

So is that why Blu-Ray is being adopted faster than DVD?

Come back when downloads are uncompressed 1080P

So which system sucks again?

So who's sucking whom again?

This is why the 360 sucks (Cuz hey, opinion is king on this board and well placed obnoxiousness is very effective )

No iNfamous

No Demon's SOuls

No GoW 3

No R&C

No Uncharted

No Resistance

No Folklore

No Motorstorm

No Little Big Planet

No Metal Gear Solid 4

Are you getting my point yet?

 

[MondayNgt]

Reasons why the PS3 sucks:
- No Gears of War.

- No Alan Wake.

- Less games in total.

- Every game that's available for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 looks and runs crappier on the PS3 because of the PS3's hardware architecture which is suboptimal for games. (Games don't care for the number of CPU cores because they cannot use them anyway. They care for the processing performance of a single core, and here the Xbox 360 is clearly superior to the PS3 - the Xbox 360 is equivalent to a 3+ GHz Triple Core G5 PowerMac.)

We all know that it's the PS3's biggest selling point, but no, in an age of digital online distribution, the BluRay argument just doesn't count anymore.

So which system sucks again?

But here's the good news: Both consoles are available for the price of an iPod Touch. If you're serious about gaming and really want to play those two PS3-exclusive titles, go ahead and buy both consoles.

This argument doesn't apply anymore in 2010 (a few years ago, XBox's library did have it all over PS3). A few exclusives now doesn't mean a console is great or sucks (XBox doesn't have Uncharted, Infamous, Gran Turismo, others, so does that mean it sucks?), most other games people play and talk about are all multiplatform. The game aisles on both ends of the local electronic store aren't too different looking, so to speak. Graphics-wise, differences between the games on both systems are negligible.

As for digital distribution, I'm really surprised people still overestimate that medium. "HD" downloaded movies from iTunes, PSN, XBox, etc are slightly above DVD quality at best and contain little to nothing of the extras that DVDs or Blu-Rays come with. With the public still with the mindset of collecting physical movies, digital downloads won't replace DVD/Blu-Ray in this generation (but succeed it when it matures), in my opinion.

On the other hand, I do think digital download/streaming is going to - if not already - going to give PPV and on demand a run for it's money.

 

[Cameront9]

That said, I thought the length and the pacing of the game were essentially immaculate. There's something to be said for something so short yet so tight.

Oh, I agree, it was perfect.

 

[whyamihere]

that portal 2 trailer is fantastic. can't wait!