E3 2010: Portal 2 for Mac, iPhone Games from Square Enix, SEGA and Capcom

[4look4rd]

Reasons why console gaming sucks:
Graphics are four or more years out dated
Controlers are no where near as precise as mouse and keyboard
Console games often cost more
Consoles provide limited functionality
With the price of a console you can easily upgrade a pc to run up to date games

EDIT: as a previous 360owner I have to say that the xbox was the biggest waste of money ever

Sony at least has the decency to provide built in wireless connectivity and HD cables..... Microsoft wants 100 for the adapter and 40for the cables....

Reasons why the PS3 sucks:
- No Gears of War.

- No Alan Wake.

- Less games in total.

- Every game that's available for the PS3 and the Xbox 360 looks and runs crappier on the PS3 because of the PS3's hardware architecture which is suboptimal for games. (Games don't care for the number of CPU cores because they cannot use them anyway. They care for the processing performance of a single core, and here the Xbox 360 is clearly superior to the PS3 - the Xbox 360 is equivalent to a 3+ GHz Triple Core G5 PowerMac.)

We all know that it's the PS3's biggest selling point, but no, in an age of digital online distribution, the BluRay argument just doesn't count anymore.

So which system sucks again?

But here's the good news: Both consoles are available for the price of an iPod Touch. If you're serious about gaming and really want to play those two PS3-exclusive titles, go ahead and buy both consoles.

 

[0098386]

Look better than what? The multi platform games are coded to the lower console, this round it is the 360, the only examples for these I have seen where the PS3 version of not as good would be the ones that EA has been allowed to touch, it is nothing more than poor coding by the developer. And games like LBP, GT, Drakes Fortune, Killzone etc, there is nothing wrong with them

GTAIV and Ghostbusters were built for the PS3 and ported to the 360, yet the 360 runs at a higher resolution (GTAIV) and Ghostbusters looks hideous on a PS3.

As I said before. The 360 has the more powerful GPU and better RAM config, the PS3 has the more powerful CPU and larger media storage.

 

[0098386]

Sony at least has the decency to provide built in wireless connectivity and HD cables..... Microsoft wants 100 for the adapter and 40for the cables....

My Xbox 360 came with component cables, whereas the PS3 just came with composite cables. I didn't know they changed that, got any links for it?

The Xbox now has wifi built in. A shame they didn't think to add it before, since even the DS and PSP from 2005 had built in wifi.

 

[Yvan256]

Just to add my two cents to the whole Xbox360 vs PS3 debate, here's my point of view: get the hardware required for the software you want to use.

I bought a Mac because of OS X, not because of the hardware specifications.

The same goes for game consoles. Let's say the only games I want to play are the Zelda and Metroid series. In this case, the Wii is better than both the Xbox360 and PS3 combined.

You can debate GFlops all day long, it doesn't matter if a console is 10 times more powerful than another. Without the games you want, it's just a huge block of useless electronic components.

You don't play the hardware, you play the games.

 

[TheDrift-]

At the moment the graphics are usually best of the lead console, the cosole that gets the port tends to get the crappier version of the game.

PS3's exclusive KZ3 and Uncharted 2 are probably above anything the xbox has done so far......

.....but I'm with KB It doesnt matter which console you wave your fanboy flag for we all worship the great god that is gaming!

 

[Cameront9]

Reasons why console gaming sucks:
Graphics are four or more years out dated
Controlers are no where near as precise as mouse and keyboard
Console games often cost more
Consoles provide limited functionality
With the price of a console you can easily upgrade a pc to run up to date games

EDIT: as a previous 360owner I have to say that the xbox was the biggest waste of money ever

Sony at least has the decency to provide built in wireless connectivity and HD cables..... Microsoft wants 100 for the adapter and 40for the cables....

Call me when I can play Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, F-Zero, Star Fox, Mario Kart, etc, on my Mac, then we might talk.

The point is the console provides a different experience.

This argument is old and tired, and you're never going to get everyone to agree with you, so why bother?

 

[Jason S.]

I'm just excited to hear Valve admitting they were wrong about the PS3.

Finally, they see the light and will start making game for a system that doesn't suck (i.e. the 360).

Just yesterday at the Sony conference at E3 they came out to introduce Portal 2 and praised the PS3 and even said that they feel it will be the best Portal 2 experience on any console.

Sony at least has the decency to provide built in wireless connectivity and HD cables..... Microsoft wants 100 for the adapter and 40for the cables....

The 360 has included HDMI cables for a while now, and the new 360 just introduced as built-in Wifi... with no price change.

 

[kikuchiyo]

Final Fantasy Tactics is an amazing game. I played the PS1 original and Lion Wars when it came out in Japan. I'm super excited for this to be on the iPhone; I won't have to carry a game system around with this!

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

The Xbox now has wifi built in. A shame they didn't think to add it before, since even the DS and PSP from 2005 had built in wifi.

As did the Wii.

I never strayed from Nintendo and I'm surprised to hear that despite how much the Wii gets trashed on for it's limited online gameplay, the xBox 360 actually had less than the Wii.

 

[guzhogi]

Reasons why console gaming sucks:
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Consoles provide limited functionality
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Just curious, what kind of functionality do you want? Do you want a full fledged computer? As I said, just curious.

I'm no gamer so I don't really care what has a better cpu, gpu, etc. Would be nice if these systems had user upgradeable cpus, gpus, hard drives, etc. though.

As did the Wii.

My family has a Wii. Pretty fun. Sure, graphics may be worse than the xBox/PS3, but I don't care. I'm not one to really care about that. I just play Wii sports & Resort. For me, it's more about the actual game play & playing with friends/family.

 

[Man-Droid]

Console discussions truly are the bottom of barrel. Soooooooooooo pointless. Mac vs. PC. PS3 vs. Xbox360. My dad can beat up your dad. Blah. Blah. Blah. My Big Mac is better than your Whopper cuz it has Special Sauce. Yeah, well the Big Mac doesn't have tomatoes so my Whopper is better. Snoooooooooooze

 

[pondosinatra]

Portal 2 is a day one buy for me.

Portal was one of the few truly unique games to come out over the past decade? Definately in a long time.

 

[RVNA]

Just yesterday at the Sony conference at E3 they came out to introduce Portal 2 and praised the PS3 and even said that they feel it will be the best Portal 2 experience on any console.
.

This is because the Playstation 3 will be the only console to support Steam Cloud, Automatic Updates, etc. You can hear Gabe Newell say this at 2 minutes and about 1 second in on this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijBSX9a-0Pw

 

[andrewmorinelli]

GTA where are you?

I cant wait for the GTA series to released on my MAC. I will never need a console again!!!!

 

[Wee Beastie]

This thread probably doesn't need another, "I'm stoked for Portal 2" comment, but I'm totally stoked for Portal 2. So much fun for such a small game. I loved the disoriented, paranoid vibe (reminded me of the movie "Cube" a bit for some reason) and the twisted humor injected here and there was fabulous.

Companion Cube, your death was not in vain.

 

[jfanning]

GTAIV and Ghostbusters were built for the PS3 and ported to the 360, yet the 360 runs at a higher resolution (GTAIV) and Ghostbusters looks hideous on a PS3.

As I said before. The 360 has the more powerful GPU and better RAM config, the PS3 has the more powerful CPU and larger media storage.

A quote regarding the PS3 version of Ghostbusters...

"If the PlayStation 3 was able to render so many objects on screen, it certainly appeared to come at a cost to Terminal Reality," says Gamezine.co.uk. "It doesn't look like they ever had the time to refine their PS3 engine and instead heavily compromised the game to get it out the door. We must certainly question whether it was their 'lead platform.' We know how good PS3 games can look at 720p; you've all seen the incredible gameplay footage of Uncharted 2: Among Thieves."

http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=10260


I have never played the game, but from doing a couple of searches, the results seem to come back with the same conclusion, it was the developers fault, not the PS3

 

[birch25]

Well that's just silly. I loved Metal Gear Solid 4, Infamous, God of War 3, Uncharted 1 + 2, LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet and Clank A Crack in Time, Flower, Demon's Souls, and PixelJunk Eden/Shooter. None of those can be found on the Xbox 360. The "the PS3 doesn't have any games" argument is about 2 years outdated. You may just not have any interest in the games that are PS3 exclusives just as I have no interest in Gears of War (played the first one, but that was enough for me).

Also, if I want to watch something in true HD, BluRay is still the only option. Sure, you can download HD movies/shows but their quality is downgraded from what you get on a disk. An HD movie download is around 4-8 GB while a movie on BluRay typically runs 20-30 GB. Quality is lost in the compression. That's not a knock on the 360, I'm just a videophile and want my films to look as good as they possibly can.

 

[GFLPraxis]

I'm making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS.

It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.

 

[gottalovemacs]

What do you mean, you killed your companion cube?! I thought that was the end of the game! No one could ever kill their one true love, right?! RIGHT?!

LOL

 

[MorphingDragon]

Call me when I can play Mario, Zelda, Kirby, Metroid, F-Zero, Star Fox, Mario Kart, etc, on my Mac, then we might talk.

The point is the console provides a different experience.

This argument is old and tired, and you're never going to get everyone to agree with you, so why bother?

Dude, StarFox is dead. The series died after Nintendo sold it to Rareware.

 

[twoodcc]

glad to see more games for the mac! also for the iphone as well

 

[tigress666]

You can debate GFlops all day long, it doesn't matter if a console is 10 times more powerful than another. Without the games you want, it's just a huge block of useless electronic components.

You don't play the hardware, you play the games.

Exactly. The problem when they come out is determining which one is going to be most likely to get most of hte games.

When I picked the PS (1) the Sega Saturn wasn't dead yet. I didn't like Sony at hte time but decided to go with the PS cause it already appeared it woudl get the most games. I didn't care about the specs (still couldn't tell you which one had better specs honestly), I just cared that the game makers were gravitating towards the PS. I picked pretty well cause the PS had a pretty long reign even when newer consoles had come out and the hardware was dated.

So for me the best console over all is the one that gets the most developers attracted to it. The best console though for any one person is whichever one gets the most games the person is interested in.

 

[Ironworker808]

Just to add my two cents to the whole Xbox360 vs PS3 debate, here's my point of view: get the hardware required for the software you want to use.

I bought a Mac because of OS X, not because of the hardware specifications.

The same goes for game consoles. Let's say the only games I want to play are the Zelda and Metroid series. In this case, the Wii is better than both the Xbox360 and PS3 combined.

You can debate GFlops all day long, it doesn't matter if a console is 10 times more powerful than another. Without the games you want, it's just a huge block of useless electronic components.

You don't play the hardware, you play the games.

Why, in the name of all that is holy, did the discussion continue after this post?