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April fools joke, the article link to the benchmark doesn't even exist anymore.:rolleyes:

Geekbench does have results for the 5Y31 which is the same CPU used in the base model. Since the scores are close, it is likely not a hoax. Do we know if the high end model uses the 5Y71?
 
No. But remember, it's Apple Inc now. Not Apple Computer. It's about fashion, style, Form over Function.

I miss you Steve. :apple:

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You nailed it. ;)

Watch the 2008 intro of the MBA and tell me that Jobs was not about fashion, style and form over function? Can't be done.
 
Hmmm! Scores are better than my old 2.26 GHz Core 2Duo MacBook pro from mid '09. Sure it has a purpose for someones lifestyle.

That's an interesting way to look at it. My wife has done her entire PhD on a mid-2009 Macbook Pro and still uses it as her daily driver today. The machine can do a heck of a lot of what most people will use it for.

I myself do a lot of my remote work using an iPad Air + Logitech keyboard cover, and I do the photography work and anything else at home on my 5K iMac. I think *I* may be the demographic for this machine if that's the case.

I don't know if Geekbech is a fair comparison in this case. It might be better to compare what it *can* do vs what people *will* do with it. Honestly, it truly will meet a lot of people's needs.
 
Finally Apple has gotten into the netbook market I see.

I fail to see how this will sell well for the MSRP. I will wait and see if people really are just buying the brand latest thing.
 
So, is this a machine belonging to the future port-wise, and to the past performance-wise ? :rolleyes:
 
That's an interesting way to look at it. My wife has done her entire PhD on a mid-2009 Macbook Pro and still uses it as her daily driver today. The machine can do a heck of a lot of what most people will use it for.

I myself do a lot of my remote work using an iPad Air + Logitech keyboard cover, and I do the photography work and anything else at home on my 5K iMac. I think *I* may be the demographic for this machine if that's the case.

I don't know if Geekbech is a fair comparison in this case. It might be better to compare what it *can* do vs what people *will* do with it. Honestly, it truly will meet a lot of people's needs.

I'm still rocking a 07 MacBook w upgrade 3gb ram because I don't need something more powerful for my flow. I don't play games on the machine though; I barely did when I got it anyways since it has the 950 chip. It is time to upgrade it though, but this machine is WAY overpriced for what it is. A MBA or a surface pro are much better options for someone that wants slim and better performing.

Buying soemthing that is 4 years old tech wise will cause you to upgrade your machine sooner and will suffer the consequences of being choked by newer oses 2-3cyckes down the line. If it wasn't because I installed a mod mountain lion on my MacBook I would have upgraded king ago. the official lion upgrade made the machine half as good as it was before it.
 
My favourite comments are from the people who think that an iPad Air 2 will "outperform" the new rMB just because Geekbench scores say so.
(Full disclosure: I even have an iPad Air 2 myself).

All these self-professed "tech experts" astound me. The rMB doesn't have 2011 specs, it has fanless, mobile processor, never-meant-to-compete-with-a-rMBP specs.

How's that Yosemite running for you on the iPad, anyway?
 
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Don't quite get the hate of this machine. I think it's gonna be an awesome consumer product for the right (most) person. This is coming from a rMBP 15" kinda guy. I only need my pro for my work related statistical programs etc...and plan on using the new 12" Macbook for my primary use outside of work.

The hate is specs vs price. If this was priced more aggressively not many would complain.
 
If you find the touchpad confusing, you really should be looking at some other type of tech product.

I also do not see what is confusing about the touchpad. Instead of having to secondary click for certain task, you can do it with a force click. It is straight forward and anything but confusing. I would venture to say he has not used it before.

I actually hate the fact the stand alone trackpad has not been updated!
 
So if second generation will have 2 usb-c ports, 720p camera and 1 more battery usage up tp 10h you will buy it?

Well, I assume it will never have more ports :rolleyes: I'm just looking for a bit better CPU performance. Battery life will almost certainly improve as CPU's get more efficient. Everyone has their own priorities, that's mine.
 
I wonder how this stacks up against the new Microsoft Surface 3 performance-wise?

Others may have posted, but you got me thinking about this, since I've never run this on my SP3.

Results (and these are the 32 bit results, I'm not paying for the GB version that does 64...):

Single core: 2706 Multi: 5261

Intel Core i5-4300U 1.9GHz

Say what you will about Microsoft and Windows, but this is a really nice machine. The touchscreen is something that I didn't think I'd want or need in a traditional computing format, but it works. Windows 8.1, OK, whatever, but I gave myself a 30 minute learning curve and now I navigate through it with ease. Add in the smart keyboard cover and it really is a winner. I hope that app development for Windows increases though - that is really the only thing that holds it back, but that's not the machine's fault - and I certainly can run traditional Windows programs with little to no difficulty.

For those saying that the Retina Macbook is like an iPad Pro or such, is this a touchscreen machine? Is it a hybrid OS that I wasn't aware of?
 
"If you don't want an ultra-portable, don't buy one..."
"If you bought an ultra-portable and don't like it, bring it back..."
 
if you conflate apple's new iPad-with-a-keyboard with their high end offerings in the same breath you evoke nostalgia about machines that don't hold a candle to said high end offerings, then sure. whatever floats your boat.

My 2011 MBP has 1.25TB of internal storage (256 gig SSD, 1TB HDD). As far as I'm concerned there is nothing apple currently sells that holds a candle to that machine for my usage case.
 
yes this

That looks like reasonable performance for what the machine appears to be designed for.

It's never going to be the fastest - get a Pro if you need speed.

For most, this will be fine.

Exactly. Asks politely, hasn't this been known for awhile though? Core M chip and all?
 
I wasn't aware this machine had a mechanical hard drive and 2 GB of RAM. :rolleyes:

When do you ever get the beachball from CPU tasks? And why would you buy this for CPU intensive tasks? People love to complain about anything.

Where did you see me complain? I just made a packaging suggestion for it...

I think even further: that Zen brochure should match the color of included Macbook to underline the good fashion sense and sophisticated taste of the wearer, sorry, user.

:)
 
My 2011 MBP has 1.25TB of internal storage (256 gig SSD, 1TB HDD). As far as I'm concerned there is nothing apple currently sells that holds a candle to that machine for my usage case.

We're not talking about "usage cases" here.

This thread is for blanket statements only! :mad:
 
I am of the opposite opinion. The need for an increased CPU performance is almost worthless for a lot of typical workloads where the bottlenecks will be (Internet) network speed and random reads (and to some degree random writes).

For every computer I own I would always choose better random reads and writes before CPU performance.

just further my over-all opinion

One size doesn't fit all for computers.

and choice is always better than no choice.
 
For me the hate isn't really aimed at this machine, it's just the general arrogance and direction is heading with all of their computers. Its a sign that they only care about form and NOT really function and this machine is just a precursor to updates down the line. They have the gall to release machines with no ports, 3 and 4 year old parts and then call it "innovation" because it's so "thin."

Your belief that your particular needs for ports and parts is indicative of the greater population is off-base or even a bit arrogant. Apple continues to make high performance laptops with ports and parts that should address your needs, but they're also trying to make computers that address other needs for other consumers (including business people), with computers like the new rMB.

This new rMB will run all the basic software a large portion of the population needs, be it for school, home or work and be ideal for those that want or need to carry less weight but still get a mid-sized retina display, keyboard and trackpad experience, which is something that the iPad has not been able to deliver.

The argument for more ports or specific hardware has been played out over the past decade with Apple constantly pushing the market ahead. I remember when they dumped the floppy drive in favor of the cd-rom. The reaction from PC user friends was much like your comment - that Apple will fail because you can't get all the software on cd-rom, so you need to include the floppy drive. The same thing happened with various ports and the cd drive itself, so here again, Apple is pushing forward and plenty of people will kick and scream until they too catch up.

I would assume we'll see another similar post with the next iteration of some Apple computer, phone or tablet when Apple decides to ditch some "standard" in favor of something new or innovative. How dare Apple, I say. Let them fail as they surely deserve to for their lack of maintaining the status quo.
 
All of these comments really, really remind me of the original MacBook Air. "Lighter, worse performance, less ports, more expensive! Who'd want this!?" And then here we are, a few years later, and the MacBook Air has come down in price, performance has increased, and it has a place finally for consumers. I expect the same thing will happen with this new Retina MacBook.

What you're forgetting is the Original Macbook air as launched was not successful. it was seen as too slow, too few ports and way too expensive (sound familiar?)

it wasn't till the 2010 (I believe) refresh, where Apple moved to the i5 series CPU, added magsafe, thunderbolt and 2 USB, and price dropped to a $999 base price that the Macbook air popularity took off.

I think V2.0 of the rMacBook will likely do the same.
 
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