Early iPhone 5S Shipments May Be Constrained Due to Poor Fingerprint Sensor Yields

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    In what has become something of a tradition ahead of Apple's product launches, Digitimes is reporting that the iPhone 5S may see constrained supplies at launch due to poor yields of certain components. In this case, the issues are said to be related to chips supporting fingerprint recognition and the device's LCD, according to industry sources.
    The report also claims that production for the new device was supposed to start in late June or early July, but because of yield problems the ramp-up will be delayed until late July. According to Digitimes' sources, this will result in Apple delaying shipments of three million iPhone 5S into the fourth quarter. Just yesterday, Jefferies analyst Peter Misek had indicated that "small batch production" of the iPhone 5S had begun last month, with mass production ramping up later this month.

    In early April, reliable KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo reported that production issues would likely "delay" iPhone 5S into September and that Apple's third quarter would see smaller shipment growth than previously expected.

    TruePrint fingerprint sensing technology from AuthenTec
    Reuters followed up with its own report in late April, mirroring Kuo's report claiming that production issues would likely result in delay's for Apple's newest flagship device.

    However, at Apple's Q1 2013 earnings call, CEO Tim Cook warned that predicting future Apple business based on certain supply chain data was "impossible" because the company has multiple sources for components to account for varying yields and inconsistent supplier performance.

    Apple's iPhone 5S is expected to launch sometime in the fall.

    Article Link: Early iPhone 5S Shipments May Be Constrained Due to Poor Fingerprint Sensor Yields
  2. rollzst macrumors member

    Apr 10, 2011
  3. sshambles macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2005
    I would love for this to show how fingerprint technology can work consistently and efficiently. Removing the passcode would be of benefit for this. Unsure as to what else it might be used for other than that - or verifying similar apps.

    There would be constraints no matter what I'm sure. I'm sure they'll manage it well enough.
  4. fullauto macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2012
    Liking the print recognition..

    Not liking the 5 form factor..

    The next 18 months can't come soon enough..
  5. Woyzeck macrumors 6502

    Nov 2, 2012
    So we waited more than 8 months for the new iMac, just because they were unable to produce the screen that no one was waiting for and now we have to wait for the new iPhone because of a sensor that no one needs. Great.

    And in the meantime Samsung and the other Android phone manufacturers roll over the market. Maybe that's not the most promising strategy to overcome a loss in market share.
  6. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem


    Feb 19, 2005
    I just don't think I follow how anyone could possibly panic over delays in shipments of a product that hasn't been announced with a feature that no one really knows will be included. Who says fingerprint scanning will come on the iPhone 5S? We know there will be a 5S and it will likely be on schedule with all other releases, but doesn't anyone think the fingerprint scanner would be held back for the iPhone 6? That is historically a release that carries even more updates, right?

    I always say the "S" of the phones were nothing more than slight improvements to their predecessor. I'm a fan of my 4S, and I'll likely be a fan of the 5S as well, but I'm not sure the fingerprint technology will be included in the 5S.
  7. newdeal macrumors 68020

    Oct 21, 2009
    Apple needs to get a serious strangle hold on manufacturers because every single launch is plagued by these issues
  8. litmag01 macrumors regular


    Jul 16, 2009
    I totally agree. It seems tough though because a lot of their suppliers also deliver to Apple's competitors and some are direct competitors themselves.
  9. Rogifan macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2011
    How do we know there is even an issue? This is coming from DigiTimes after all. Not like they have a great track record in reporting anything.
  10. needfx macrumors 68040


    Aug 10, 2010
    macrumors apparently
    burglars with scratched fingerprints are really going to have a problem using this device.
  11. decimortis macrumors 6502a


    Aug 28, 2007
    Will they store my fingerprint in the cloud?
    I have an over-active imagination that some friends say borders on paranoia, mostly my cat, and can see a hundred different ways this could go bad.

  12. ValSalva macrumors 68040


    Jun 26, 2009
    Burpelson AFB
    Well, at least it might give Apple more time to work on iOS 7 ;)
  13. Plutonius macrumors 604


    Feb 22, 2003
    New Hampshire
    Just more analyst guesses. You might be better to hold back your angst until Apple actually announces a product :D.
  14. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    It'll be interesting to see how easily the scanner can be fooled. I remember a mythbusters episode where they fooled the most expensive fingerprint scanner in the world with a photocopy of the finger!
  15. igazza macrumors 6502a


    Aug 7, 2007
  16. troop231 macrumors 603

    Jan 20, 2010
    Yep, my old wintel laptop had a built-in fingerprinter reader; It turns out my college room-mate could log in to my computer using only a portion of his finger (I asked him to try it). I guess we had close enough finger-prints for the AuthenTec software to not care.
  17. Nungster macrumors regular


    Oct 15, 2011
    Damn it! Damn fingerprint unlocking! I was hoping for patterned swiping, so I can unlock iPhones like I do with all my co-worker's Samsung Galaxies
  18. Lucamegh macrumors member

    Jan 4, 2010
    My guesses:
    • fingerprint lockscreen unlock;
    • fingerprint passwords (that's why they announced iCloud Keychain ;));
    • fingerprint Apple ID authentication.

    I'd personally wait an extra month to get this new sensor. There are too many passwords to remember nowadays.
  19. ThatsMeRight macrumors 68020

    Sep 12, 2009
    Finally a new hardware feature in the iPhone, for the first time since 2010! :D
  20. ChrisTX macrumors 68030


    Dec 30, 2009
    While none of us, myself included know what this finger print sensor is all about. It seems rather gimmicky, but let's hope this is some sort of security feature that proves to be useful. Either way, Apple can't afford to have any constraints on their flagship product. :cool:
  21. fullauto macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2012
    It's bound to happen sooner or later across all devices / manufacturers, not just an :apple: problem. Sad but true. :cool:
  22. kappaknight macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2009
    Constraint is not the same as delay.
  23. ChrisTX macrumors 68030


    Dec 30, 2009
    But if I remember correctly, wasn't this a problem with early generation iPods once they introduced Windows versions of the player? Pretty sure Apple was heavily criticized for it then. With over $100 Billion in the bank it seems like now more than ever, they should be able to get a hold of their supply chain a little better.
  24. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Oh my. Another Beeee Esssss story. We are on very fertile ground this year. Ha.

    We've seen this story play out under Cook with the iMac 27" debacle. Cook later publically, humiliatingly, admited announcing and then releasing a product with obvious availability constraints was the wrong path to take, but it was a learning experience.

    He continued that if he had a do-over he would have waited to announce and release only when adequate supply was available.

    So there you have it. Apple is NOT going to release the 5S until adequate supply is available. Now that maybe be only enough supply for the U.S., or U.S. and key European country, not necessary a more complete roll out,but Apple isn't going to get caught short in any given market.
  25. ChrisTX macrumors 68030


    Dec 30, 2009
    While I agree that Apple doesn't want to get caught with it's pants down so to speak. Let's hope you're right here. The last thing they need is constraints of their largest source of revenue.

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