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What's an apple launch without delays? Sometimes I think they do it on purpose to drum up perceptions...
 
So an in-house cockup of a feature nobody wants is going to make it so that Apple can't intro their most valuable product at the optimal time?


Tim, Tim, Tim...
 
Let's hope you're right here. The last thing they need is constraints of their largest source of revenue.

If I am not right then Cook lied to analyst and investors about learning an lesson w/ the iMac 27" and should be carted out of Apple. What you say is true, Apple can't afford to play games with it's bread and butter product. Their is a viable competing product now. The launch must be reasonably smooth.
 
Will they store my fingerprint in the cloud?
I have an over-active imagination that some friends say borders on paranoia, mostly my cat, and can see a hundred different ways this could go bad.

D.

I would never store sensitive information in "the Cloud" (i.e. someone else's servers). Although I trust Apple 100x than I do Google, there are some things that you need to keep on your own hardware.
 
What's an apple launch without delays? Sometimes I think they do it on purpose to drum up perceptions...

Sure. That is exactly what they did with the 27" iMac: drum up perceptions only to drive a giant hole in their 1Q earnings because product wasn't available. :roll eyes:

When are you guys going to understand that companies do not intentionally limit production as a PR stunt. If there is no product to sell there is no profit to make and the company risks the consumer either finding a substitute product (say an Android phone in this case, or losing interest ( deciding they don't need to replace their phone after the hoopla of the launch has passed).

Shorter: companies like to strike while the iron is hot.
 
So we waited more than 8 months for the new iMac, just because they were unable to produce the screen that no one was waiting for and now we have to wait for the new iPhone because of a sensor that no one needs. Great.

And in the meantime Samsung and the other Android phone manufacturers roll over the market. Maybe that's not the most promising strategy to overcome a loss in market share.

Jesus, not only you say nonsense, but you also use "we"

I can't believe you don't see the importance of finger print recognition. "We" do
 
If I am not right then Cook lied to analyst and investors about learning an lesson w/ the iMac 27" and should be carted out of Apple. What you say is true, Apple can't afford to play games with it's bread and butter product. Their is a viable competing product now. The launch must be reasonably smooth.

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't the original launch of the next gen iPhone originally rumored for a mid summer launch at first anyway? It seems like a late September/early October launch is likely. Apple has had all year to get their act straight, and they're not amateurs. I'm sure things will go as planned here.
 
Not this again, it's a marketing ploy by Apple to drive the hype and demand for the new iPhone, like they need to ;)
 
So tired of hearing about supply chain issues on Apple products, the majority have never even been remotely true. Makes me want to go back to print news with a higher quality of research and journalism.........
 
So we waited more than 8 months for the new iMac, just because they were unable to produce the screen that no one was waiting for and now we have to wait for the new iPhone because of a sensor that no one needs. Great.

And in the meantime Samsung and the other Android phone manufacturers roll over the market. Maybe that's not the most promising strategy to overcome a loss in market share.

Every apple product is released with "something no one was waiting for" – that's the point! Release it and show the benefits and THEN people clammer for it. People don't know what they want till they are showed what it will do for them (like an iPod, iPad, touch screen phone, retina display... ). Same with the finger print scanner. Apple isn't like Moto or Samsung – add a piece of hardware just cause they can but without a plan to integrate it into a solution, like passbook. I can see the scanner and passbook and iCloud Keychain coming together to create a world class solution to mobile payments. The android phones "rolling over the market" are cheep ass phones selling for free or near-free that will be software obsolete by the end of the year – these aren't the same people waiting for the new iPhone.
 
I hope there is an option not to have this finger print sensor operational. We have several iPodt and an iPad that we share in our family. That means many people are using several devices.

Furthermore, fingers are sometimes dirty, might have paint on them that would interfere with a finger print and finger prints change due to work, callousing and injury.

Biosensors should be by passable when not desired. We don't use the key code lock either - waste of time.
 
So an in-house cockup of a feature nobody wants is going to make it so that Apple can't intro their most valuable product at the optimal time?


Tim, Tim, Tim...

You are only speaking for yourself. I skipped the 5 for this. There is no "optimal time", where are you getting that from? A phone can come out whenever they want it to, it's not a back to school item (too expensive) so the "Optimal Time nonsense is a crock.
 
Sure. That is exactly what they did with the 27" iMac: drum up perceptions only to drive a giant hole in their 1Q earnings because product wasn't available. :roll eyes:

When are you guys going to understand that companies do not intentionally limit production as a PR stunt. If there is no product to sell there is no profit to make and the company risks the consumer either finding a substitute product (say an Android phone in this case, or losing interest ( deciding they don't need to replace their phone after the hoopla of the launch has passed).

Shorter: companies like to strike while the iron is hot.

While I don't have direct proof of this, it does play into human perception, which has been studied and well documented. By creating a theoretical bottle neck leading to record sellouts (remember how apple touted their last WWDC conference sold out in 45 seconds) they are able to create the perception that this product is so great, it has now sold out! And if you want to be part of this "sold out" crowd you need to wait, or act sooner next time. It gives the product another sense of desire. Think of it this way, when shopping for a product, if the person demonstrating the item shows you two competing products and then says, this model is our most popular yet, it sold out within an hour of receiving inventory. However we have plenty of stock from the leading competitor. This plays into basic human perception. Why is it sold out so quickly? Perhaps it is superior and better than the competition. That is why the other one is not selling as well, perhaps I should wait...This is all perceived, mostly subconsciously.

Anyway, this is my theory based on human perception. I don't know for a fact that apple employs this technique but one would simple look at the lines at a product launch for apple, versus the rest of the industry to see it in motion.
 
So if it's true about the fingerprint sensor being in the next iPhone, will the NSA be subsidizing the new iPhone at least? They will probably be getting access to our fingerprint data, after all...

Waa, waa, waaaa. Really lame attempt at a jab there...sorry.
 
I like the current phone factor, but think Apple should offer two iPhone sizes. The current one the iPhone 5 possesses, and one around 4.8 inches.

Liking the print recognition..

Not liking the 5 form factor..

The next 18 months can't come soon enough..
 
I'm sure things will go as planned here.

Yes, me to, which is why I called the report B.S. All these analyst are publicity whores and nothing gets attention like a negative report. Even when they are reporting expected earnings they are all over the place, and those numbers are supposedly based on "careful" inventory counting.
 
Hypothetically speaking if you were sleeping or passed out someone could grab your hand, place your finger on your phone and unlock it that easily?
 
Not convinced by the fingerprint sensor business. I mean, is tapping four numbers that hard?
 
Anyway, this is my theory based on human perception. I don't know for a fact that apple employs this technique but one would simple look at the lines at a product launch for apple, versus the rest of the industry to see it in motion.

I doubt Apple employs the technique by intentionally limiting available product, but instead merely takes advantage of product selling out.

Some people do not understand the technical issues with ramping up a new product, like the iPhone. There are first issues assembling all the new components en mass as well as assembling the final device. Many of the manufacturing issues get ironed out over the first few weeks of manufacturing. New issues sometimes pop up.

Moreover, companies also have to be conservative in managing initial supply to match demand. Apple had to take a 250 million write off over lack luster sales of its very cool but expensive Cube. Companies like Blackberry, HP, and now perhaps Microsoft misjudged initial demand and had to take losses.
 
Damn it! Damn fingerprint unlocking! I was hoping for patterned swiping, so I can unlock iPhones like I do with all my co-worker's Samsung Galaxies

I don't see why this is such a big deal. That patterned swipe is based on a number grid anyway.
 
Not convinced by the fingerprint sensor business. I mean, is tapping four numbers that hard?

No, but it is annoying if you have to do it often enough.

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Hypothetically speaking if you were sleeping or passed out someone could grab your hand, place your finger on your phone and unlock it that easily?

Or just chop your finger off.
 
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