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Huge bargain... maybe?

I just picked up a Powerbook G4 1.33GHz 12" with 1.25GB ram (max) with Airport Extreme. Picked it up for just $25AUD ($19 USD)!!! It's a little dented, but otherwise everything is intact.... even came with an original case!

Except one thing. The power socket seems to have some piece of metal(?) jammed into it, so the power cable can't be fully inserted. I can't check whether it powers on and works (but the previous owner seemed to imply it was fully working other than this).

Anyone got any tips about how I can fix this? I'm worried I need to dig in deep and replace a part... has anyone had this happen to them?

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I agree with R Dufus, that certainly appears to be the center post from the tip of a charging cable broken off inside the charge port.
Once inside it's easy enough to change the DC-in board, but getting down to that level after removal of the logic board is an absolute pain. Having said that it's well worth it, but I hastily add that if you are not familiar with tear-down of laptops, the 12" G4 Powerbook is definitely not the machine for the average 'diyourselfer'.
If/when it's totaly dismantled, it's the ideal time to re-paste the cpu, and renew the heat-sink thermal pads.
Also whilst the logic board is out, to remove the optical drive - remove it's cover and clean the laser lens carefully using isopropyl alcohol.
With all this completed one still notices that these 12" Powerbooks run very hot, and can get uncomfortable on the lap.
If you are tempted to refurbish the PBook, take note of THIS excellent link by AphoticD.
Logicboard heatsink retaining posts have been known to become detached, which is easily resolved with an initial dab of superglue followed by reinforcement around the base with araldite.
Please report back on your eventual findings.
 
I agree with R Dufus, that certainly appears to be the center post from the tip of a charging cable broken off inside the charge port.
Once inside it's easy enough to change the DC-in board, but getting down to that level after removal of the logic board is an absolute pain. Having said that it's well worth it, but I hastily add that if you are not familiar with tear-down of laptops, the 12" G4 Powerbook is definitely not the machine for the average 'diyourselfer'.
If/when it's totaly dismantled, it's the ideal time to re-paste the cpu, and renew the heat-sink thermal pads.
Also whilst the logic board is out, to remove the optical drive - remove it's cover and clean the laser lens carefully using isopropyl alcohol.
With all this completed one still notices that these 12" Powerbooks run very hot, and can get uncomfortable on the lap.
If you are tempted to refurbish the PBook, take note of THIS excellent link by AphoticD.
Logicboard heatsink retaining posts have been known to become detached, which is easily resolved with an initial dab of superglue followed by reinforcement around the base with araldite.
Please report back on your eventual findings.
Thanks for this.
You were absolutely right- snapped off piece of an old charger within. After disassembling the whole computer, I managed to poke it out with a needle. There were still some kind of debris in there, but after a couple more forceful pokes with a small screwdriver, it was pushed away and I could fit in the charger to full length.

This is the deepest I’ve ever been into a computer before, though, so it was a little scary and I dread the reassembly.

Is there any way to check the Dc-in is working before the reassembly? E.g would a multi meter be sufficient?

Also, can you elaborate what you mean by renew thermal pads and repaste CPU? This is all new to me, so if you could tell me what this paste actually is (and whether I can source it locally- Australia), that would be wonderful.

I want to get it in good shape now, so I’m willing to make these efforts.
My wife, despite not being as interested in retro Macs as me, loves the small form factor, and has promised to use it for her own daily needs too :)
 
Thanks for this.
You were absolutely right- snapped off piece of an old charger within. After disassembling the whole computer, I managed to poke it out with a needle. There were still some kind of debris in there, but after a couple more forceful pokes with a small screwdriver, it was pushed away and I could fit in the charger to full length.

This is the deepest I’ve ever been into a computer before, though, so it was a little scary and I dread the reassembly.

Is there any way to check the Dc-in is working before the reassembly? E.g would a multi meter be sufficient?

Also, can you elaborate what you mean by renew thermal pads and repaste CPU? This is all new to me, so if you could tell me what this paste actually is (and whether I can source it locally- Australia), that would be wonderful.

I want to get it in good shape now, so I’m willing to make these efforts.
My wife, despite not being as interested in retro Macs as me, loves the small form factor, and has promised to use it for her own daily needs too :)
Hi,
Firstly, apologies for the link in my message as it wasn't the one I intended to post.
HERE is the link from the dedicated PowerPC Mac forum where @AphoticD provides an excellent post on his 12" PowerBook refurbish.
Secondly, bravo for opening up your PowerBook, and especially succeeding in removing the damaged piece. I believe you had to remove the logic board first for access - correct?
Did you use the iFixit guide for the tear-down? If not the link's HERE.
And HERE's the iFixit link to applying thermal paste. There are several different types and makes, but in general you can't go wrong with most of them. I always purchase from Amazon, same for thermal pads - sheets of which come in varying thickness. Again this requires additional discussion, as I'd have to check what thickness I used when completely refurbishing two 12" Powerbooks.
Regarding your query with checking the DC-in board with a multi meter, I'll leave that to someone more knowledgeable than myself to answer, especially on the PowerPc Mac forum where there are many experts. I'll copy this post over there too.
 
Just picked up a little something for 20€.
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It‘s missing RAM and Hard Drive but I’ve got some spares left.
Seems like a bargain to me. :)
You‘ve got to love a B&W G3 !
 
Also, can you elaborate what you mean by renew thermal pads and repaste CPU? This is all new to me, so if you could tell me what this paste actually is (and whether I can source it locally- Australia), that would be wonderful.
As a rule, you can't go wrong with Arctic MX-4 thermal paste. It is cheap, easy to get hold of and does a fine job. Once applied, it lasts for years before drying out. It is also non-conducting, so even a messy application is safe with no risk of shorting nearby components. There are slightly better pastes but it is a case of diminishing returns with a hike in cost.
 
As a rule, you can't go wrong with Arctic MX-4 thermal paste. It is cheap, easy to get hold of and does a fine job. Once applied, it lasts for years before drying out. It is also non-conducting, so even a messy application is safe with no risk of shorting nearby components. There are slightly better pastes but it is a case of diminishing returns with a hike in cost.
@mectojic I picked up 2x 4g tubes of Arctic MX-4 from eBay here in Australia for AU$25 inc delivery a couple of years back and have had great success with this in many different models, including the PB G4 12”.

If you are doing just the one machine, you can probably buy the 1g tube.
 
Excuse me :)
Anyone wants quad for PSU repair\replacement? :D
thing i find with sales like this is that the seller is never honest about what actually happened, it's always a cae of 'the power supply just stopped working'. Only when you press the issue further do you find out that they were doing something they shouldn't have been doing which resulted in the power supply going faulty. I have no doubt that machine will need more than a new psu.
 
Just picked up a little something for 20€.
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It‘s missing RAM and Hard Drive but I’ve got some spares left.
Seems like a bargain to me. :)
You‘ve got to love a B&W G3 !
I know they are plagued with problems and brittle plastic and I’ve got three Sawtooth G4’s which practically the same era and are better in every way, but there is truly something special about the B&W G3.

I had a rev.A model many years ago (maybe in 2002?), which I sold off and I still hope to reacquaint myself with another one some day (pref rev B though). :)
 
Well, if 30 lbs paperweight is what you're looking for, you can't go wrong with either of these 😅

BTW: threw some RAM in it and a 10.2 preloaded HDD and it booted straight up.
Theres something magic about Macs. They just work. Like preloaded HDDs can simply be swapped between devices, or that a 1999 machine easily recognized my HD TV and instantaneously spit out a perfect 1920x1080 image, while Windows 10 is still struggling without the AMD driver package.
 
Theres something magic about Macs. They just work. Like preloaded HDDs can simply be swapped between devices, or that a 1999 machine easily recognized my HD TV and instantaneously spit out a perfect 1920x1080 image, while Windows 10 is still struggling without the AMD driver package.
Is this via DVI to HDMI? If so, consider yourself lucky because most of my PPC Macs won't play nice with my HDTVs when connected in this manner.
 
Sorry my bad, I did check that again, and it's not HD but 1600x900. Thats the highest 16:9 resolution the pci 128 rage can display. But indeed, the little B&W dinosaur chose the right resolution in the correct ratio, so I stand by my statement :p
 
Sorry my bad, I did check that again, and it's not HD but 1600x900. Thats the highest 16:9 resolution the pci 128 rage can display. But indeed, the little B&W dinosaur chose the right resolution in the correct ratio, so I stand by my statement :p
I'm just glad that you're enjoying more success on this front than I have and congrats on a bargain: 20€ is an absolute deal! :)
 
It's incredible how the prices went up in the last years...

In 2014 I bought 4x PM G4s (1xGE, 2xDA, 1xMDD), a G4 Cube, a G3 B&W, 2x 15" Studio Displays, a 20" Cinema Display and lots of accessories for 50€ + 80€ in shipping. I kept the Cube and a matching 15" (still have), but selling the rest for a profit was anything but easy.
 
Ok, just an update on my PowerBook G4. I managed to put it all back together and applied thermal paste along the way.
Tried booting up again- at first, all I got was a startup chime and the screen didn’t light up. This I tried many times, but then I tried resetting PRAM and it somehow booted to Open Firmware. Success- the display works! But it still had a bad ram message. I fiddled around with installing ram with no change. Then I realised from reading the forums that it was probably the airport card causing problems. Removed it and booted again. Still open firmware, a new warning message, but I just typed Mac-boot, and suddenly- woohoo! It booted into 10.4.11, into the account of the person I bought the laptop from.
I did a fresh install of 10.4 and wiped the hard drive, and everything now works perfectly. So I now got my bargain $25 PowerBook G4 12” 1.33GHz 1.25GB ram fully working! Thanks everyone for the tips and encouragement. This is an awesome machine, and the most powerful (and most small!) PPC I’ve ever used.
 
So, my latest eBay conquest came with a bit of a saga...

It began as a poorly titled ShopGoodwill listing for an "Apple A10 Desktop". Looking at the pictures (and entering the "Apple Certified Refurbished" serial number into EveryMac) revealed a 17" 2.0GHz iMac G5. It was listed as powering on, but said "Needs Apple ID to reinstall OS". The starting bid was $6.99, so I decided to take a gamble and won it for that price. After shipping and tax, the total cost ended up being $31.71, which I thought was a nice win for a working G5.

Turns out though, it wasn't working. When it arrived, I turned it on to find that only half the screen lit up. I then opened the machine to find that it didn't just need an OS installed, it was missing a hard drive. The hard drive I had already half expected, so cloned my Powerbook's SSD to a spare SATA drive I had lying around, and stuck it inside. Still, booting into OSX revealed that only half the screen worked.

I contacted the seller (Goodwill of North Georgia) expecting them to tell me something along the lines of all items being sold as-is, but was very pleasantly surprised when they immediately admitted the listing must have been incorrect and sent me a full refund without wanting the computer back.

So, I set about investigating a repair on what was now a free iMac. The logic board on it looked pristine, with not a single bulging capacitor, so I tracked down a mini-VGA to VGA adapter and determined the problem was the panel itself rather than a GPU/logic board issue, because it worked fine connected to an external monitor. "Awesome", I thought, until I learned how expensive these screens are ($70 for a used panel!? Really!?). I put the project on the back burner for a few months, thinking I may try to do something like remove the stand and set it up as a sort-of wall-mount tower, but still checked eBay for screens every couple weeks when I thought about it, hoping for a deal to pop up.

Then a couple weeks ago, a deal did pop up. Someone listed a screen as "untested", but claimed it was working when it was removed. They said the rest of the computer had been parted out so they could no longer retest it. Normally, I would be wary of a listing like that, except this seller said they would "price it accordingly", and that they did. The bidding started (and ended) at $1.00! So, after shipping and tax, I was only in for about $11!

When it arrived, I installed it to find that the entire panel now worked, but had a weird blue tint. On a hunch, I swapped the cable from the old broken panel, and it was perfect!

So, I upgraded the RAM to 2GB, stuck in a 7200 RPM 3.5 inch drive from my stash, and installed @wicknix 's excellent MacBuntu Remix 12.04. This thing is shockingly quick! I'm typing this right now on InterWeb and it is surprising how well this machine handles the web, compared to my DLSD Powerbook, which already is fast enough for me most of the time.

Edit: I forgot to mention the old SuperDrive didn't work either. It would spin up but not read anything, so I swapped in I still had laying around from my deceased A1139 that another forum member now has the other parts from.

TL;DR: 2.0GHz iMac G5 for $11 + RAM/HDD/SuperDrive from my stash and a bunch of time (fun). :)
 

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I contacted the seller (Goodwill of North Georgia) expecting them to tell me something along the lines of all items being sold as-is, but was very pleasantly surprised when they immediately admitted the listing must have been incorrect and sent me a full refund without wanting the computer back.
Congrats on your success! I love these scenarios where the seller issues a full refund or partial refund and tells you to keep the item. A few months ago, I received a computer for free under those circumstances. :)
 
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