Buildbright

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Buildbright

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Aug 25, 2011
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It says the final bid plus $499.

Does not matter you have to sell the item on ebay. You are not allowed to sell a surcharge this violates may ebay seller rules.

But whats funny is the emails between the buyer and him. Also he if is banned from ebay as a seller you will keep losing new account no matter how sly you are.
 
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bjmach

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Oct 10, 2008
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There are 142 new iPads for sale on ebay lol......Some a buy it now price of $1000
 
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Buildbright

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not the sellers fault that buyers are so dumb

Actually the listing violates the selling policies on ebay. So yeah its the sellers fault.

There are 142 new iPads for sale on ebay lol......Some a buy it now price of $1000

I did some reserch on completed listings saw the top ones sold for $600, $623, and $656. Which at most is a $60 profit. But Next Week prices will go up. The Availability on launch day will be the deciding factor of how high prices will be.
 
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waloshin

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Ebay does not allow you to add $499 to the final price unless its shipping. So this guy will either get the iPad for $250 or wont get it at all plus a refund.
 
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cpucrash0

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May 25, 2010
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Hey since Apple Calls it The new iPAD can't a seller just make a listing of his 2nd generation iPAD that's new in box or probably first gen iPAD if they still have it brand new in box and Call it New iPAD? I think there is going to be lots of scamming going on now that apple didn't call it something like iPAD 3 or iPAD HD or something like that. It's going to cause lots of confusion
 
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thekev

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Aug 5, 2010
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It says the final bid plus $499.

And once again.... you can't auction anything that way. You could list it with $500 or $750 or whatever as the start price once you have the product in hand. Ebay has enough scammers as it is. If anything they need to do a better job with that so buyers don't have to navigate through so many spam/scam listings. Even if you can identify them, it pollutes the listings and makes it more difficult to find legitimate items.

not the sellers fault that buyers are so dumb

stupid buyers like that are the reason why ebay had to come up with those policies

Since you can't think for yourself, I will explain it. Ebay fees are based upon listing/selling price. The seller is attempting to circumvent this, and attempting to sell something that he does not yet have in hand. If he wanted to sell such a thing, the allowed method would be to start an auction listing with product in hand with an appropriate starting bid. Anything else violates the rules regardless of ignorant buyers.
 
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Buildbright

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Aug 25, 2011
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And once again.... you can't auction anything that way. You could list it with $500 or $750 or whatever as the start price once you have the product in hand. Ebay has enough scammers as it is. If anything they need to do a better job with that so buyers don't have to navigate through so many spam/scam listings. Even if you can identify them, it pollutes the listings and makes it more difficult to find legitimate items.





Since you can't think for yourself, I will explain it. Ebay fees are based upon listing/selling price. The seller is attempting to circumvent this, and attempting to sell something that he does not yet have in hand. If he wanted to sell such a thing, the allowed method would be to start an auction listing with product in hand with an appropriate starting bid. Anything else violates the rules regardless of ignorant buyers.

Thank you.
 
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wtiger91

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Apr 30, 2011
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ridiculous,, im seeing people selling their pre-orders for atleast $200 more than the retail price on craigslist already,,, -___- i hope no one buys from these crooks..
 
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MR1324

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Nov 22, 2010
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sounds like a pretty smart seller since the item sold and his account hasn't been deactivated. again, dumb buyers get what they deserve.
 
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Chupa Chupa

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I find it hard to feel sorry for any of the parties here regardless of what happens.

eBay: they've been using their de-facto/quasi/not technically monopoly power to shove up sellers rears for sometime now. Between the final value fee and pay pal fee they get around 15% of each transaction. Then add shipping, which isn't cheap these days, but the market seems to require to get people interested. (Not in this case specifically, but generally "free shipping" is key to getting something sold). And if you do charge shipping you have to pay eBay a fee for that too.

Buyers: Look people buying stuff on eBay are on the Internet where research is quick and easy. Typing Apple.com gives people a virtual bread crumb trail to new iPad preordering.

Sellers: He's being too cute by half, and sleazy as well. eBay usually doesn't care if sellers have scruples or not as long as they get their fee. But when you try to short eBay you might as well cross a mob boss instead. He lit the match so its on him if he gets burned.
 
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RetiredInFl

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And once again.... you can't auction anything that way. You could list it with $500 or $750 or whatever as the start price once you have the product in hand. Ebay has enough scammers as it is. If anything they need to do a better job with that so buyers don't have to navigate through so many spam/scam listings. Even if you can identify them, it pollutes the listings and makes it more difficult to find legitimate items.

Since you can't think for yourself, I will explain it. Ebay fees are based upon listing/selling price. The seller is attempting to circumvent this, and attempting to sell something that he does not yet have in hand. If he wanted to sell such a thing, the allowed method would be to start an auction listing with product in hand with an appropriate starting bid. Anything else violates the rules regardless of ignorant buyers.

The only point where you are incorrect is that you CAN sell "pre-orders" on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/pre-sale.html

If you want to sell presale items, be sure to meet all of the following criteria:

Guarantee that the item will be available for shipping within 30 days from the purchase date. Be sure to clearly state this information in your listing.

Clearly indicate in the listing that the item is a presale item.

The handling time specified in your listing should reflect the time from the end of the listing until the item is shipped to the buyer—not the time the item is in your possession. Be sure to specify the correct handling time in your listing.

In the listing form, you need to use the default font size of 3 so people can easily see these sale terms.
 
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thekev

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The only point where you are incorrect is that you CAN sell "pre-orders" on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/pre-sale.html

If you want to sell presale items, be sure to meet all of the following criteria:

Guarantee that the item will be available for shipping within 30 days from the purchase date. Be sure to clearly state this information in your listing.

Clearly indicate in the listing that the item is a presale item.

The handling time specified in your listing should reflect the time from the end of the listing until the item is shipped to the buyer—not the time the item is in your possession. Be sure to specify the correct handling time in your listing.

In the listing form, you need to use the default font size of 3 so people can easily see these sale terms.

I wasn't aware of that feature. It appears to be designed for resellers who would place their orders directly with a manufacturer or distributor. In this case it was just someone concerned about ebay cutting into their scalping margins. If you listed a pre-sale item, the bid would include anything aside from tax and shipping just like any other store. This is part of what makes it functional to browse listings. I'm not a big fan of ebay overall. They're quite hostile to sellers in mostly siding with buyers on disputes as they wish to attract more buyers. An auction system really requires a high level of legitimacy to stay really profitable. If buyers are constantly going through junk listings, they may become discouraged with that method of purchase or miss valuable listings, which really hurts all parties involved.

That site has gone downhill for many years.
 
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MR1324

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Nov 22, 2010
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yup ebay, paypal, and half are ****. can't wait until the day when there is a true competitor to these guys.
 
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Buildbright

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Aug 25, 2011
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Someone could report this auction as a violation of ebay rules: avoidance of final value fees.

I think the buyer will take care of this guy. I am sure when he emails him and asks for $499 there will be some good conversation.

Anyone else seen a funny Craigslist add or other for the iPad 3?
 
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