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Eddy Cue 'Thrilled With the Numbers' as Apple Music Hits 11 Million Users

Jmausmuc said:
What a joke. You Cant be serious. Spotify stated when nobody knew about streaming or cared. They were a small startup company with no publicity or money. Apple on the other hand is the worlds biggest company and launched to a media fanfare.
Comparing these two is nothing but comical.

I almost certain they are not thrilled about the 11m subscribers just as they are not thrilled about apple watch sales. If you really buy their reason for not releasing sales numbers for the watch, I wont be able to help you.
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Give me a break. We can all play that game. "Apple started in the seventies when nobody knew about personal computing or cared"...

Who cares when they started and how. It matters about how they can survive in the market. Google (also cash rich) has had their subscription service up and running for a while now and guess what - no subscriber numbers.

Maybe 11m in a month is bad? If you read my post before flying off the handle you'd have noticed I wrote that we have no idea as we don't have the required data to make that call.

We know they've reached nearly 15% of the total subscribers of the market leader who have been doing this for 7 years. But again like I wrote in my post that there is no point comparing as Apple's is just a free trial at the moment. 15% in a month sounds pretty damn decent to me though.

I don't need to buy any reasons from anyone about which sales figures they choose to release. They said way before release they won't be announcing them. Most likely because it's such a small percentage of their bottom line at the moment (just like the Apple TV is).
 
From another site: Beats Music's Jimmy Iovine said "for many people outside of the US, you still have to explain what it is and how it works," adding "there's still the issue of winning over millennials, who never pay for music."

I think apple needs to work on Jimmy's talking points.
 
Rogifan said:
But some here think these Apple Music numbers are bad. There is no rule or law that says when Apple has to release sales figures and when it doesn't. Perhaps if they never did with iPad we wouldn't have all the iPad doom and gloom now.
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Whether the Apple Music number is good or bad in the reader's eye isn't the point. The point is they released a number, spun it as good news at a time when it needed good news. And good or bad news it is consistent with what Apple has done in the past.

You are correct there is no law saying Apple has to release sales figures. But I never said or implied anything of the sort. In fact just yesterday I stated as such. So please stop attributing things to me that I never said or implied. MY POINT has always been Apple HAS always released numbers EXCEPT for the AW. MY POINT is Apple is being curiously inconsistent.
 
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I am by no means anti-apple as I have been "all in" on their devices and services for many years. That said, within the past 6 months I have switched from Apple to Google for my email and photo needs, and after a nightmare experience with iCloud Match/Apple Music I finally had enough and dumped iTunes in favor of Swinsian for playing songs on the Mac. For my iOS devices I am using Waltr to simply dump my songs from a Dropbox folder onto the device. I simply can't trust my data to Apple if their services continue to be opaque, unreliable, and worst of all - unpredictable.
 
navaira said:
Yeah, but what I mean is: 2 million family accounts -- does it count as 2 million subscribers, or, say, 6 million subscribers? (I suspect the latter, because I don't think Cue would resist the temptation to, ummmm, slightly enhance the numbers)
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It means 2 million of the 11 million have signed up as family accounts, so there are more than 11 million people using Apple Music.

Over 11 million people are now using Apple Music following the June 30th launch. "We're thrilled with the numbers so far," Apple senior VP Eddy Cue told USA Today. The service is in a free trial phase until September, so nobody has paid for it yet. The number of users is actually higher, though, as Apple said that 2 million of those folks are on the family plan, which allows six people to use it at once.
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http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/06/apple-music-11-million-trial-users/
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Whether the Apple Music number is good or bad in the reader's eye isn't the point. The point is they released a number, spun it as good news at a time when it needed good news. And good or bad news it is consistent with what Apple has done in the past.

You are correct there is no law saying Apple has to release sales figures. But I never said or implied anything of the sort. In fact just yesterday I stated as such. So please stop attributing things to me that I never said or implied. MY POINT has always been Apple HAS always released numbers EXCEPT for the AW. MY POINT is Apple is being curiously inconsistent.
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I'm not attributing these things to you specifically.
 
Hey, me too on my AM trial...

HenryDJP said:
LOL that's odd. Since using my Spotify trial I haven't had one bit of interest to buy an album or a song because I've been able to play virtually any song that I have interest in.
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Anybody calculate how many :apple:M subscribers Apple would need to recoup the costs of acquiring Beats?

In any case, my continuing thought about Apple forays into music and watches is 'It's the computing, stupid'. Like getting into entertainment really helped Sony...
 
At this point, no one is paying for Apple music. All free trials end next month based upon the release date of 8.4.
 
I still don't understand what this whole Apple Music thing is about.
I can play any song on demand, that isn't new at all, Spotify does that for free.
"For You" is a bit random and obvious, it mostly only suggests things I already have in my library, which is kind of easy to do.

Beats 1 radio doesn't work where I live so that's about all there is. I don't even know how Beats 1 is different from the iTunes Radio that was introduced a year or so ago (which also doesn't work where I am), or the "Internet Radio" bit where you select a station and it just plays music. How are all of these not the same?

Also how come you have to pay for Beats 1 radio when as far as I know literally all radio has always been free since the dawn of time? I haven't tried it because I can't, but I'm just wondering how it's different from turning on any random radio station on any random radio.

Basically I see Spotify, which works in my country, it's free, it's on-demand, it has suggestions, it has radio, it has everything and it's free. While on the other hand you have Apple Music, which is the same thing except Radio doesn't work for me and it's not free. How is Apple music better or supposedly better than Spotify?
 
1080p said:
I'm actually surprised. That number seems low considering the free trial and the sheer amount of iTunes users they have. You would think it would be easier to get people to sign up.
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Pretty much what I thought. Given the amount of publicity and the size of the market, it doesn't seem an overwhelming success. Early days yet.
 
I was really looking forward to Apple Music, as I use Apple's music app a lot. Problem is after day one I totally regret signing up for my free trial as all my album artists has been ruined. Also the songs I add for offline listening, keep disappearing, I am OCD and my music was perfect, now it's lost :(. Also I can not fix it until I can get access to my mac in another country, which is annoying me, but hey least I can happily say I haven't updated iTunes on my Mac to Apple Music compatible yet, so I can say my music is all safe and sound organized on my Mac just how I like it, for when I do get home!! :D
 
Four oF NINE said:
Not a fan of rap so I won't be joining. Even if that's not all they have, that's the perception.

Plus, there was a horror story from Jim Dalrymple where he lost over 4000 songs.

Apple Music is a nightmare and I’m done with it
Posted on Wednesday, July 22nd, 2015 at 11:37 am. PT
Written by Jim Dalrymple

http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/07/22/apple-music-is-a-nightmare-and-im-done-with-it/
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And after going to Apple it was determined he only lost 200 or so songs. He just thought the rest were lost because of how crap the iTunes Match/iCloud Music Library has been implemented and explained to people.
 
I was an box Music Pass Subscriber before apple music, the newly rebranded Groove music has one real nice feature, that is I can upload my files in ALAC format to my onedrive account, you can upload 50,000 tracks for free, and it streams them in the new Groove app in Lossless. You do not need to be a pass member
 
bbeagle said:
Some people do stupid things.
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Rogifan said:
And after going to Apple it was determined he only lost 200 or so songs. He just thought the rest were lost because of how crap the iTunes Match/iCloud Music Library has been implemented and explained to people.
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I had to download around 2400 songs twice for offline playback. One day they are one my device and the next they are not. Go figure.

Apple and service shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Its retarded.
 
MacrumoursUser said:
Who gives an excrement about what stuff you have?
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I've thought this myself. I settled on this logic: This is an Apple forum. They sell product and provide service. Users in this forum are possibly more qualified to provide feedback and offer opinions on said product and service if they are actually owners and users of said product and service. Therefore, it's highly relevant, and offers context for statements.
 
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