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EDGE Doubles Its Speed

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cupofjoe

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http://gizmodo.com/372868/edge-doubles-its-speed


:D Looks like good news for current iPhone owners if you ask me.

Nokia Siemens Networks announced today that they have successfully doubled the speed of EDGE (to 592 kbps) using a software-based solution that is feasible for existing networks. Expected in the third quarter of 2008, Nokia will follow up with EGPRS 2, offering 1.2 Mbps and uploads reaching 473 kbps.

It's not the fastest tech on th block by any means, but it's potentially very good news to a slew of iPhone owners, as well as any manufacturer who'd like to compromise a bit of speed in the interest of battery life.
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Hopefully this will only require a firmware update, not new hardware, otherwise, there will be something to fall back on when you can't get 3G.

TEG
 
TEG said:
Hopefully this will only require a firmware update, not new hardware, otherwise, there will be something to fall back on when you can't get 3G.

TEG
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That's what I'm hoping for, a nice little firmware update, lol.

I don't want to have to fork over another 500 or 600 bucks for a 3G phone when this is a possibility. ;)
 
cupofjoe said:
That's what I'm hoping for, a nice little firmware update, lol.

I don't want to have to fork over another 500 or 600 bucks for a 3G phone when this is a possibility. ;)
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you still realize that even with this bump, it's still a lot slower than 3g ... and you can't do voice and data at the same time ... 3g is a significant upgrade
 
Drumjim85 said:
you still realize that even with this bump, it's still a lot slower than 3g ... and you can't do voice and data at the same time ... 3g is a significant upgrade
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Yup...your so right, as has been point out over and over and over again....HOWEVER...for those of us in areas that 3G does not, has not and probably will not for sometime...This is GREAT news!!!
 
sweet, with a little faster edge maybe I can resist the 3g iPhone when it comes out.
 
SFC Archer said:
Yup...your so right, as has been point out over and over and over again....HOWEVER...for those of us in areas that 3G does not, has not and probably will not for sometime...This is GREAT news!!!
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oh it's definitely good news, you just can't expect it to perform as well as 3g.
 
I'm confused...

does that mean the entire EDGE Network has been successfully DOUBLED? B/C I'm certain that my EDGE Network is still "as slow a molasses going up hill on a cold day!" I did the iNetwork test immediately after reading this post and my WiFi = 1295kbps and EDGE = 123kbps. But my "battery" still has a full charge! LOL :eek::confused:
 
SFStateStudent said:
does that mean the entire EDGE Network has been successfully DOUBLED? B/C I'm certain that my EDGE Network is still "as slow a molasses going up hill on a cold day!" I did the iNetwork test immediately after reading this post and my WiFi = 1295kbps and EDGE = 123kbps. But my "battery" still has a full charge! LOL :eek::confused:
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just cause it's feasible, doesn't mean ATT has (or even will, although i don't know why not) adopted it yet.
 
Drumjim85 said:
just cause it's feasible, doesn't mean ATT has (or even will, although i don't know why not) adopted it yet.
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If it requires a lot of new equipment to support EDGE-E I doubt it will come, if it is a minor hardware upgrade or software upgrade I expect it will come, especially in those places that are a bit too rural for 3G.

TEG
 
TEG said:
If it requires a lot of new equipment to support EDGE-E I doubt it will come, if it is a minor hardware upgrade or software upgrade I expect it will come, especially in those places that are a bit too rural for 3G.

TEG
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the article said it was a software based solution ... i don't think that would require new hardware, or equipment
 
Drumjim85 said:
oh it's definitely good news, you just can't expect it to perform as well as 3g.
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Drumjim85 said:
just cause it's feasible, doesn't mean ATT has (or even will, although i don't know why not) adopted it yet.
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Are you always this postive and cheerful??? Has anyone here stated in anyway shape or form that this is better then or a replacement for 3G? Has anyone even insinuated a threat toward your precious 3G? Just curious cause everytime someone says something about bettering this technology, even a little, you beat them down.
 
SFC Archer said:
Are you always this postive and cheerful??? Has anyone here stated in anyway shape or form that this is better then or a replacement for 3G? Has anyone even insinuated a threat toward your precious 3G? Just curious cause everytime someone says something about bettering this technology, even a little, you beat them down.
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cupofjoe said if this was possible, he wouldn't get 3g, and i was telling him that it's not the same..

Then SFStateStudent tried it out and was surprised at the speed being the same, and i simply said that it hasn't been rolled out yet ...

I don't care about 3g, i won't even get the new model when it comes out...
none of my comments were meant to be a "beat down" or negative ... just information ...


EDIT:
So cupofjoe and sfstatestudent, If I offended you with my "negativity" I'm sorry ...
 
Yeah, I really don't have anything against "3G", but regardless of that, this is still fantastic news for those that both don't have the coverage or the money to toss at another iPhone. Hell, I'd love to have a 3G iPhone - but that's just not feasible for me right now. I don't think that's what I was trying specifically to get at with posting it, just letting others know that it is quite possible EDGE could be improved. We all know it won't be 3G.
 
QCassidy352 said:
still, I'll take it! Especially if it can be done with a firmware update! :D
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I don't think it will take any user update (like an apple firmware)... but rather something the servers will change ... i could be wrong though ...
so one day it should just be faster...
 
Drumjim85 said:
you still realize that even with this bump, it's still a lot slower than 3g ... and you can't do voice and data at the same time ... 3g is a significant upgrade
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EDGE is 3G. It's part of ITU's 3G standard (IMT-2000) under the name IMT-SC.

3G starts at 144 kbit/s. And yes, EDGE does allow voice and data at the same time - at least in theory.
 
3247 said:
EDGE is 3G. It's part of ITU's 3G standard (IMT-2000) under the name IMT-SC.

3G starts at 144 kbit/s. And yes, EDGE does allow voice and data at the same time - at least in theory.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution

EDGE is generally classified as 2.75G, although it is part of ITU's 3G definition
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EDGE/EGPRS is implemented as a bolt-on enhancement for 2G and 2.5G GSM and GPRS networks, making it easier for existing GSM carriers to upgrade to it. EDGE/EGPRS is a superset to GPRS and can function on any network with GPRS deployed on it, provided the carrier implements the necessary upgrade.
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Whether EDGE is 2G or 3G depends on implementation. While Class 3 and below EDGE devices clearly are not 3G, class 4 and above devices perform at a higher bandwidth than other technologies conventionally considered as 2G as 1xRTT). Because of the variability, EDGE is generally classified as 2.75G network technology.
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Drumjim85 said:
the article said it was a software based solution ... i don't think that would require new hardware, or equipment
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Depends on what they're doing.

If it's the usual compress-data-before-sending kind of thing, then it might require a large investment in (de)compression servers on the carrier side.

Still would be announced as "software only solution". In corporate-speak, that means just add it to your existing farm of ten thousand servers... if you have them!

:)
 
I don't know if there are more "experts" surrounding the technological specs behind EDGE and 3G or the U.S. economy.
 
rjohnstone said:
http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com..._Siemens_Networks_doubles_EDGE_data_speed.htm

Read into it what you will.

I think it's good for existing iPhone users provided it is implemented by the carriers.
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According to Nokia-Siemens Networks it's software update only for networks. Phones will need new hardware and phones utilizing new tech won't be around until 2009. So no luck for current iPhone owners.

Source (but it's in finnish):

http://www.itviikko.fi/page.php?page_id=46&news_id=20088747
 
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