Taking a stab at it and saying because Apple products like Apple TV that are direct competition to Amazon's own tech are being sold on Amazon.. some scratching of each others backs here is all.
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Eero Mesh WiFi Products Now Available From Apple's Online Store
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It’s amusing you actually believe Apple. They are no better and to believe them would be naive. They only happen to be more skilled at masking what they do. Hardware & Software under their control.
They have massive pools of data on their customers that would amaze you. The difference is they don’t sell it. Instead, use it for themselves.
They have massive pools of data on their customers that would amaze you. The difference is they don’t sell it. Instead, use it for themselves.
Apple sells select third-party devices that do not adhere to Apple's data privacy standards. If it's not an Apple product, it will have its own standards.
As to why Apple is selling an Amazon product, it's worth noting that Amazon is now an authorized reseller of Apple's products and that it gives those products preferential treatment in its storefront. That's not an accident.
Two Eero Pro units in a 1400 sq ft. house with an odd shape (hard to blanket with wifi) for over a year, replacing a spaghetti mess of under-performing Airport Extreme units. I liked the AE's, but they were really mediocre routers when you get down to it.
The Eeros have been rock solid: full speed wifi on a 300Mbps Comcast connection serving about 30 devices. Everywhere in the house and out into a large backyard. Haven't touched them since initial setup.
The Eeros have been rock solid: full speed wifi on a 300Mbps Comcast connection serving about 30 devices. Everywhere in the house and out into a large backyard. Haven't touched them since initial setup.
Is there any reason I need to upgrade? I've got AirPort Extreme with a few Express units thrown about and all seems well for the most part. A little slow lately but pretty reliable. What are the benefits of upgrading from AirPort Extreme?
My iPhone 11 Pro works just fine with my Eero setup. My guess is that those who care about WiFi 6 are capable of looking for that specifically.
If it's working fine and you have no pressing need, then don't upgrade.
I get that, just seems a bit strange considering how much data amazon can get from you via a router or smart speaker, Apple don’t sell echo devices so why routers?
I replaced my Apple brand wifi routers and bought this brand instead- the Eero Pro (3 pack). I like that their Eero Secure + subscription service is only $99 a year and you get 1 Password, Encrypt.me and Malwarebytes along with their basic features like safe filtering, ad blocking, activity center, and weekly insights. For $99 a year, you can't go wrong with that.
I bought the Eero 3 pack from Amazon last month. I ended up returning it.
I live in a two story house with my modem/router in the basement. I've had issues with getting a wifi signal throughout the house in the past, so I tried Eero. On the bright side, all of my dead spots were gone. The Eero really did cover my entire house in wifi, with one pod placed on each floor.
Unfortunately, that solid wifi signal I had just didn't have a lot of speed. I have gigabit internet service (1 Gbps up/down). On my Asus router, I would get speeds of 300 Mbps on my iPhone. In areas with low signal, it could be as slow as 42 Mbps. With Eero, in the same spots, using the same iPhone, my speed would be 135 Mbps at best. In the room where my Asus would get 42, the Eero got 44, so that was one bonus. But everywhere else, the Eero was substantially slower, averaging under 100 Mbps.
If I had have bought the Eero Pro, I probably wouldn't have seen that issue. It has a dedicated wireless connection between the pods. But I didn't want to pay that much, so now I'm back to using my single Asus router for now.
Honestly, if I was using slower internet, I probably wouldn't have noticed the difference and just would have kept the Eero.
I live in a two story house with my modem/router in the basement. I've had issues with getting a wifi signal throughout the house in the past, so I tried Eero. On the bright side, all of my dead spots were gone. The Eero really did cover my entire house in wifi, with one pod placed on each floor.
Unfortunately, that solid wifi signal I had just didn't have a lot of speed. I have gigabit internet service (1 Gbps up/down). On my Asus router, I would get speeds of 300 Mbps on my iPhone. In areas with low signal, it could be as slow as 42 Mbps. With Eero, in the same spots, using the same iPhone, my speed would be 135 Mbps at best. In the room where my Asus would get 42, the Eero got 44, so that was one bonus. But everywhere else, the Eero was substantially slower, averaging under 100 Mbps.
If I had have bought the Eero Pro, I probably wouldn't have seen that issue. It has a dedicated wireless connection between the pods. But I didn't want to pay that much, so now I'm back to using my single Asus router for now.
Honestly, if I was using slower internet, I probably wouldn't have noticed the difference and just would have kept the Eero.
You picked this up?
NETGEAR Orbi Whole Home Tri-band Mesh WiFi 6 System (RBK852) – Router with 1 Satellite Extender | Coverage up to 5,000 sq. ft., 100 Devices | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps)
Orbi Wi-Fi 6 is a tri-band Wi-Fi System built with the latest and fastest Wi-Fi 6 technology to provide the ultimate smart home experience with Wi-Fi coverage and connection capacity beyond belief Keep all Wi-Fi connections strong in every room All the time with enough bandwidth for all your devi...
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New from $1499.00 + Free Shipping. The free shipping made me howl.
Who has 50+ wifi devices in their home?
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Same here -- 3 eero pros in a 1450 sqft condo. Coverage is NOT a problem.
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Because Amazon bought eero about a year ago.
That doesn't answer the question, really. Before that, Apple purchasing the company was a topic. They could have bought it, but didn’t. Personally, I’d rather they buy Netgear if they aren’t going to produce any more in their own labs.
I got an eero pro system last year a bit before I learned they were bought by Amazon. I used to maintain a hodgepodge mix of Airport Express AC and some TP-LINK routers with DD-WRT. I had to spend a lot of time to tweak things.
I did try Linksys Velop and couldn't get one of the access points to connect, so I returned it promptly. As for the Orbi, the units are too bug for my taste, plus I have had bad experience with netgear a long time ago.
So, back to error... Since I installed it, I barely have to touch it. I get consistent speeds throughout the house. It gets a wee bit slower on the sole access point that is not wired. But still fast (around 200kpbs).
The only change I made recently was to turn on WPA3.
Would I still buy it knowing that it is owed by Amazon? I don't know, probably. At least it's not Facebook, that would definitely be no.
I did try Linksys Velop and couldn't get one of the access points to connect, so I returned it promptly. As for the Orbi, the units are too bug for my taste, plus I have had bad experience with netgear a long time ago.
So, back to error... Since I installed it, I barely have to touch it. I get consistent speeds throughout the house. It gets a wee bit slower on the sole access point that is not wired. But still fast (around 200kpbs).
The only change I made recently was to turn on WPA3.
Would I still buy it knowing that it is owed by Amazon? I don't know, probably. At least it's not Facebook, that would definitely be no.
Interesting. I was going to switch to Eero when it supports WiFi6 from Orbi because of trauma with Orbi firmware upgrades. Fewer disconnects in past 6 months so maybe it’s stabilized...
According to FING, we currently have 62 devices WiFi attached to 1 ORBI base station + 2 satellites
Devices include Hue almost everywhere and love it, Wemo plugs, Kasa for “Alexa turn on the living room fan”, Nest thermostats, Thinkpads, MacBooks, ipads, phones, printers...)
I have 7 Eeros at my place (6 in the house, one in the poolhouse). Range is great and I have 91 devices attached. No problem at all.
This is the point that I was trying to make with an earlier post. If a WiFi product is hamstrung by poor firmware updates then it doesn't matter how fast it is in reviews or even initial setup. Orbi doesn't have a good track record with this.
You picked this up?
NETGEAR Orbi Whole Home Tri-band Mesh WiFi 6 System (RBK852) – Router with 1 Satellite Extender | Coverage up to 5,000 sq. ft., 100 Devices | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps)
Orbi Wi-Fi 6 is a tri-band Wi-Fi System built with the latest and fastest Wi-Fi 6 technology to provide the ultimate smart home experience with Wi-Fi coverage and connection capacity beyond belief Keep all Wi-Fi connections strong in every room All the time with enough bandwidth for all your devi...www.amazon.com
New from $1499.00 + Free Shipping. The free shipping made me howl.
Who has 50+ wifi devices in their home?
I bought the 2 pack for $699 on Amazon and it covers our house perfectly; the 2 pack is rated for 5,000+ sf. A lot of people have 50+ devices once you start adding up IoT units (Ring, AC, etc). I spent more than that on my Eeros (4 units + 2 beacons) which I eBay'd for $400. For how incredibly good the AX6000s are, $699 is a bargain for us. Like I've already said - it depends on your needs (device count, bandwidth, home).
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I can only speak for the AX6000s and say -- so far it's magic.
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I like the concept of the Eero hardware solution, but I don't like having to pay a subscription just to get full functionality the product can and should offer out of the box.
Completely agree. Yes, I do subscribe to 1Password, so that would not cost me much more for the $99/year, but all these subscriptions add up to.... well, too much. I'll stick to my AirPort Extreme & TimeCapsule, and a couple of TP Link AC1200 extenders. Don't have any trouble with this setup, and it's plenty fast as everything is wired backhaul - even the extenders.
No, the AP Extremes aren't as fast nor do they have as strong a signal as some of the new stuff, but they have been absolutely rock solid for me.
I’ve had the Eero base unit (on the third floor) plus one extender on the first floor and I get strong signals throughout the house and yard. I’ve got GB service into the house and will generally get 400-600 Mbps on individual devices. Haven’t had any issues for the past year I’ve had them.
I’ve used the RBK852 and I’m now using RBK752 and if you’re using a wired backhaul to the router the backhaul is limited to 1000 mbps while the wireless backhaul connects at 2400 mbps, I can see the backhaul channel on a couple of programs I run and it consistently runs at 2200 mbps or so. Try it, you might be surprised, or course YMMV.
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Netgear has been doing quite well now with firmware uodates, the RBK852 and RBK652 are rock solid now.
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Amplifi HD isint WiFi6 it’scWiFi 5, the Alien is WiFi6
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Netgear introduced the RBK752 last month for $449. I got a setup for $404 and it absolutely blows the doors off a AC3000 Orbi. People are a bit smarter than you think. Orbis aren’t a mesh system, they’re a hub and spoke like a really fast extender.
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The biggest issue with the Amplifi Alien is that they have no satellites so you need to use two base routers to make a mesh. Biggest deal breaker with the alien is they have no backhaul channel when you use two so what you have is a very expensive Google WiFi that does WiFi6.