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Eero WiFi Products Available in Apple Retail Stores This Week
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This is why I’ll never buy them, sadly. I’m fine with Amazon knowing what I buy from Amazon but beyond that, not taking any chances.I've been trying to get away from Amazon and Google's ecosystems as much as I can. These are owned by Amazon.
That's a little misleading; the hardware has not been updated much for a few years but the firmware / software has gotten numerous improvements over the years (HomeKit integration is one recent example).
Arguably, there is zero reason for hardware to be updated unless there is something that needs solving in hardware (like additional radio for Wi-Fi 6). I am in fact thankful that eero has not been releasing different hardware packs every year or two rather they have been still updating software for their Gen 1 product!
What's with people cowering in fear over Amazon? I've owned these before the Amazon take over, since then nothing has changed except the app layout. Same reliable device, no Amazon ads, not even the word Amazon anywhere to be seen. What is the worst that they could do, other than recommend items when shopping on Amazon?
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I gotta disagree with you. Some people live in an area where 2gbps is the standard and 10gbps is optional. I live in a house that uses a lot of bandwith so I'm dying for a Wifi 6 version that keeps the reliability of the current eero.
The average user does care about WiFi 6,7 or 47 unless they are scammed by marketing (like what has been done with 24 bit audio). They just want something that works and is easy which was the brilliance of the airport platform.
HomePod is DOA because Amazon crushed them with their 60 buck Shows for the kitchen and Bedroom and will bury them with their upcoming Hirez audio only device. Apple really has turned into IBM or Xerox. Showing up at the party early and then having someone else end up taking their date home with them.
Who said anything about fear? I am not fearful. I just refuse to give Amazon any data about me beyond what I buy from them. Same goes with Google. I have not used google in over 10 years (outside of someone sharing a YouTube link which is unavoidable). I don’t even have a google account.
It's unclear to me what you are disagreeing with; what I said was a reply on the comment that said that "eero has not been updated since 2014'. My point is that eero hardware has largely not been updated (but that is also not entirely true) but eero has been innovating all this time in software.
I did not make an argument that eero should not release WiFi 6 version. In fact, probably the time to start working on it is now, because WiFi 6 is really just recently fully sorted.
If you want to see the nightmare for customers on what happens if a company releases a product yearly, then exhibit A is definitely Orbi: https://www.netgear.com/support/product/orbi.aspx
Eero has done it smarter for sure: released solid hardware up front, innovate on top of it and then rev the hardware at major points only (like they did from Gen 1 > Gen 2 and expect to do so with WiFi 6 when that comes).
Agreed 100%. The specs don't mean anything. You can have whatever theoretical speeds you want, you can have WiFi 6, you can have a 3GHz CPU with 12GB RAM on your WiFi router, but shoddy software will still make it crap out.
People want reliability. They want a router that they won't have to reboot, that will connect / remain connected to all of their devices, that will consistently perform well.
People don't care if they can squeeze 550Mbps vs. 600Mbps wireless. They do care that their 30 devices can remain connected reliably, that their video call won't drop, that QoS works well, etc.
This is where software really shines, and where Amazon/Google have done a phenomenal job. The lack of WiFi 6 on Eero / Nest WiFi literally does not matter, because the experience these devices give is top-notch.
Yup, they are great
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Ever play around with the app? You can assign profiles for each device, block people, see what devices are signed in, do speed tests, awesome devices and app
These look very decent: https://www.asus.com/us/Mesh-WiFi-System/ZenWiFi-AX-XT8/
There's also an even newer, lower-profile version (ZenWiFi AX Mini XD4), a set of 3 units for only $300.00. See https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/0...-ax-mini-xd4-for-whole-home-wi-fi-6-coverage/.
Like the Linksys Velop (which I have, unfortunately), all the Asus AX XT8 units are the same and each can operate as either the router/main node or as an "extender" for the mesh. The Netgear Orbi setup where the units are not the same is rather lame. Unfortunately, with the Asus AX mini XD4s just released, there does appear to be a differentiation between "router" and "node" units. At the bargain price of $300.00 for the set, maybe that's not a deal breaker.
As with the WiFi 6 Orbi setup, the wireless backhaul greatly benefits from 802.11ax even if no client devices support it. And since I can't be bothered with ethernet wiring for interconnecting the nodes, that's a pretty big deal.
All of the Asus AX models offer support for bridged mode, but some functionality will obviously be sacrificed when using them in that manner.
There's also an even newer, lower-profile version (ZenWiFi AX Mini XD4), a set of 3 units for only $300.00. See https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/0...-ax-mini-xd4-for-whole-home-wi-fi-6-coverage/.
Like the Linksys Velop (which I have, unfortunately), all the Asus AX XT8 units are the same and each can operate as either the router/main node or as an "extender" for the mesh. The Netgear Orbi setup where the units are not the same is rather lame. Unfortunately, with the Asus AX mini XD4s just released, there does appear to be a differentiation between "router" and "node" units. At the bargain price of $300.00 for the set, maybe that's not a deal breaker.
As with the WiFi 6 Orbi setup, the wireless backhaul greatly benefits from 802.11ax even if no client devices support it. And since I can't be bothered with ethernet wiring for interconnecting the nodes, that's a pretty big deal.
All of the Asus AX models offer support for bridged mode, but some functionality will obviously be sacrificed when using them in that manner.
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I unplugged my Eeros and went back to my Airport Extreme based network. Anything that needs real bandwidth is wired and the Apple routers all still work properly with one of the better network management apps for visualising how your network is actually laid out. The Eeros don't play nicely with BSD Jails and it doesn't seem likely that they're going to fix it any time soon. I know I'm in a minority of tech folk impacted by it but it's still a PITA nonetheless.
I think the worry is about privacy not how well the devices work. For that I won’t touch it and will be waiting for something as good.
I never had any Google devices in my home and I replaced all my Amazon Echos with 4 HomePods after a creepy incident with Alexa. Last December I started having problems with my ancient AirPort Extreme dropping smart home devices (I have over 50 total devices that connect to my network) so I started looking for a newer router that would handle more devices. After extensive online research, I decided to go with the Linksys Velop but it appears they screwed up a great router with a bad firmware update they pushed out to enable a new subscription service to turn mesh routers into physical motion detectors (something I did not even want). I spent hours online on forums and then 3 hours on the phone with their tech support before taking the units back to Best Buy and purchasing a 3 pack of Eero mesh routers.
My only reservation about Eero was the fact they were owned by Amazon and after the Alexa incident, I wasn't thrilled about the idea of putting Amazon controlled hardware in my home again but at least the routers don't have microphones. One of the biggest reasons I chose Eero was their advertised support for Apple Homekit security (it was not enabled when I bought them last December but they advertised it was coming soon and it was enabled somewhere around February of this year). I have been EXTREMELY happy with the Eero mesh routers and the Eero app on my iPhone. I agree 100% with the earlier comment that most people don't really care about 550 Mbs vs 600 Mbs, what they want is reliability and Eero really delivers on that. I get 300 Mbs straight out of my cable modem and I get 200+ Mbs Wi-Fi everywhere in my house.
My only reservation about Eero was the fact they were owned by Amazon and after the Alexa incident, I wasn't thrilled about the idea of putting Amazon controlled hardware in my home again but at least the routers don't have microphones. One of the biggest reasons I chose Eero was their advertised support for Apple Homekit security (it was not enabled when I bought them last December but they advertised it was coming soon and it was enabled somewhere around February of this year). I have been EXTREMELY happy with the Eero mesh routers and the Eero app on my iPhone. I agree 100% with the earlier comment that most people don't really care about 550 Mbs vs 600 Mbs, what they want is reliability and Eero really delivers on that. I get 300 Mbs straight out of my cable modem and I get 200+ Mbs Wi-Fi everywhere in my house.
Back in May, Apple's online store began offering eero's lineup of mesh WiFi products, and this week, eero devices are also available for purchase in Apple's retail stores.
As outlined in a recent blog post, eero devices are being made available in Apple retail stores in the United States, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Italy, and Spain.
Right now, Apple Stores in the U.S. don't appear to be showing stock available for pickup, so stores may not have supplies until later this week.
Online purchases are available, with Apple offering multiple eero Pro Mesh WiFi setups with one or two beacons and pricing starting at $300, along with the eero Pro Mesh WiFi Router and a Pro Router Three pack.
Apple also sells the standard eero Mesh WiFi router, the eero Mesh WiFi system, and the Beacon Mesh WiFi Range Extender. Eero products are HomeKit-compatible.
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In the past Apple has had Netgear, Linksys, and now eero. I love seeing
Apple getting cozy with Bezos. Eero is not bringing anything new to the table. I returned mine. Biggest bunch of crap I've had in quite sometime.
Last year, I switched from 20yrs of Comcast to CenturyLink Gb fiber. It’s a burner. Looking for a mesh scenario to extend its reach. Recos? Thnx.
Can you just put your Comcast modem into bridge mode and turn off the WiFi capabilities? To open yourself up to a WiFi router of your choice?
I really liked the eero's style & setup -- very easy and Apple-like -- especially when I first moved on from our old Apple Airport set-up, but I could never get my eero set-up to live up to their promise of whole-house coverage, even after adding multiple additional eero units.
Finally gave up and got the Netgear Orbi (the 3-station set, then an additional unit), and the whole house is full-bar covered. There's one in every room with a computer, and each computer is pulling the same Mbps as the base station (about 350Mbps) thanks to the Orbi's dedicated backhaul channel.
YMMV.
Finally gave up and got the Netgear Orbi (the 3-station set, then an additional unit), and the whole house is full-bar covered. There's one in every room with a computer, and each computer is pulling the same Mbps as the base station (about 350Mbps) thanks to the Orbi's dedicated backhaul channel.
YMMV.
I sse no reaosn why it should do, as long as whatever device running the plex client has a good network connection your any ap=router shuld not realy care, it's just packets after all. or am i missing something here?
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Eero has been fantastic for me ... I can't recommend it highly enough. It just works.
BTW, before the Eero's I had a Google Wifi (and later a Google Nest WiFi) setup and while the Google WiFi routers worked I constantly had to fight with them. The firmware and app was buggy and updates aren't exactly frequent. The Google Nest WiFi is hardly a year old and already feels like abandonware, plus you need two apps to manage your WiFi. Ugh.
BTW, before the Eero's I had a Google Wifi (and later a Google Nest WiFi) setup and while the Google WiFi routers worked I constantly had to fight with them. The firmware and app was buggy and updates aren't exactly frequent. The Google Nest WiFi is hardly a year old and already feels like abandonware, plus you need two apps to manage your WiFi. Ugh.
Eero's standard three pack ( base + 2 beacons) probably wouldn't match a Orbi RBK50 + 2 RBK50 class satellites in tougher enviroments ( more/thicker walls , etc ). Three Eero Pros might have worked better.
And units that are too powerful that are too close can have problems too. Sometimes the set up can get to be "too simple".
the Pro models have the extra backchannel radio.
Nah, you’re not missing anything. And you’re right.
I’m a long time Plex user and remember the days of extreme flakiness. It’s been stable for ages now though, so you’re right, it should work just fine.
My current modem is pretty old … need to update to get "modern" speeds. That's job one. Then a better wifi router that my current Airport. Just wondering about an all-in-one.