You have a distinctly minority view. The vast majority of times, and yes Apple has massive research to back it up, is that I and most people want to disconnect a device from the wireless; I don't want to turn it off completely, e.g., Apple Watch, Pencil, or just iPhone users that want to switch from one speaker to another or different headphones, etc. Apple's approach is designed to make it simple for what most people want, but EFF brings up a good point and Apple should give prompt when disconnecting from control center as to your intent or allow users to set default in settings as either off completely or simply disconnect.
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EFF Says iOS 11's Wi-Fi and Bluetooth Toggles in Control Center Are Misleading and Compromise Security
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You have a distinctly minority view. The vast majority of times, and yes Apple has massive research to back it up, is that I and most people want to disconnect a device from the wireless; I don't want to turn it off completely, e.g., Apple Watch, Pencil, or just iPhone users that want to switch from one speaker to another or different headphones, etc. Apple's approach is designed to make it simple for what most people want, but EFF brings up a good point and Apple should give prompt when disconnecting from control center as to your intent or allow users to set default in settings as either off completely or simply disconnect.
Apple, with a major influence from Ive, have all but abandoned the concept of "usability".
Yes, they have become the most valuable company in the world and have taken over the market in just about every single area they have chosen to compete because they are designing products that most people find unusable.
Stupid quote. When the iPhone first came out it was incredibly basic in what it could do. The iPhone now can do 100x more things which in turn makes the device more complicated. You can't keep adding more and more features and technology and keep the same level of simplicity. It's absurd to think otherwise.
They are misleading and as such can compromise security. That said, the way the WiFi works in control center is quite useful. I thought it was a bug all the way through the betas and submitted it. One the way it works is known, i hope they keep it.
"iOS 11 users can still completely disable Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for all networks and devices by toggling them off in the Settings app. A device can also be placed in Airplane Mode with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth disabled."
So what's everyone's problem exactly? You disconnect via CC and you completely shut off via settings. That seems like it's working as intended. Most people want to disconnect wifi and bt but still have access to features such as airdrop and handoff. Seems like people here are just complaining because they just need to complain.
So what's everyone's problem exactly? You disconnect via CC and you completely shut off via settings. That seems like it's working as intended. Most people want to disconnect wifi and bt but still have access to features such as airdrop and handoff. Seems like people here are just complaining because they just need to complain.
Actually if people turned it off, it should be turned off. This isn't about the EFF, but rather Apple doing something rather baffling.
Link? It’s not how I want it to work.
Imagine if Apple had a setting to allow YOU to choose how it works - wild concept and definitely NOT Apple-like, to give the user a choice, I know.
But if I read well, even if we go to "Settings" and tap Wifi or Bluetooth to OFF mode, it will override our choose in the followings circumstances (and turns to ON again, in Settings, himself).
In this case it looks more or less when we turn off a TV by remote control. The TV is not definitely Off but there are some small energy consumption.
- You turn on Wi-Fi in Control Center.
- You connect to a Wi-Fi network in Settings > Wi-Fi.
- You walk or drive to a new location.
- It's 5 AM local time.
- You restart your device.
In this case it looks more or less when we turn off a TV by remote control. The TV is not definitely Off but there are some small energy consumption.
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This is what I was coming here to say. Allow the original functionality through 3D Touch or a long Touch.
I literally no of no one who has that intention when they want to turn off wifi or bluetooth. I do not know of anyone that truly does not care if something is off when they turn it off.
Airplane mode is not the answer to wanting to just turn off your bluetooth or wifi. A toggle to turn off just your bluetooth or wifi is the answer.
What works for you, does not necessary work for the masses. You probably should not speak for them with your "most" quantifier.
A few thoughts.
- I do think the UI is less than ideal. It does say "Disconnected from", which is unambiguous enough, but that message is easily overlooked.
- It's also problematic that the toggles in Settings behave differently.
- It seems obvious to me that 3D Touch on those two toggles should give me more options. Why can't I directly pick a Wi-Fi network from Control Center? Other Control Center menus like AirDrop and Timer have various submenu options, and this one seems obvious to add. Thus, I'm guessing they eventually will — they just haven't gotten around to it.
- Continuity highly depends on a perception of 'it just works'. When it does, stuff like unlocking your Mac with the Watch, copying and pasting between Mac and iPhone, and so forth are quite amazing. When they don't, they are infuriating. And when you have to start fiddling with stuff and manually configuring things like "well, you gotta turn Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and this and that on first", the suspension of disbelief breaks.
- Another feature that depends on Wi-Fi and/or Bluetooth when you don't expect it to? Location Services. These two taken together explain why users might have a perception of "well, I don't really need Wi-Fi", then confusingly end up with a broken user experience.
- Privacy, security. Theoretically, the radios do expose you more, although I suspect the cellular connection is a far bigger factor here. Taken together, if you want to go incognito, toggling Airplane Mode is probably a much better call: it turns virtually all radios off (including GPS and NFC, I think?), and it then lets you manually turn Wi-Fi back on if you desire.
- "I don't currently need it." I don't know what that means, exactly. You also don't currently need app x, y, z to be installed, or photo A or music track B to be on your device, but you don't remove those just because. There seems to be an excessive concern here that you need to manually manage your device, when it can probably do so much better itself.
- Save battery. That's a more concrete variant of "don't currently need it". However, this idea is based on outdated assumptions — in the 2000s, the radios did make up a significant portion of your phone's battery life, but these days, they do not. The chips have gotten much smarter at shifting to low-power modes while idling. You're probably chasing a problem that isn't there.
- I don't care much either way about Bluetooth, but the 3D-touching the Wi-Fi toggle should simply let me choose to disconnect from the network, disable Wi-Fi altogether, or pick a different network. And the Settings pages for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth should be similar to that.
- Apple should have done a better job communicating this somehow.
- The problem you're trying to solve probably isn't there. Want to save some battery and/or go a little more private and secure? Turn on Airplane Mode. Done.
Totally wrong. Users complain about not working features that require BT or Wi-Fi because they are ignorant. They are not just data anymore. I work in a support center, if you repeat 100 times a week why AirDrop is not activated or why can’t configure AppleTV you would change your mind.
I would like to know if there has been a study on the power consumption of Wifi and Bluetooth. I know from experience that Bluetooth being on with no connection is a very minimal power draw and I can't see Wifi being much different. Are the minimal power savings really worth the hassle? Not to me.
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100% agree with this!
Has it changed since the general release? Now when I toggle airplane mode off it keeps Wi-fi on....
Has it changed since the general release? Now when I toggle airplane mode off it keeps Wi-fi on....
And if this was the way in functioned from day 1, you wouldn't be surprised with the functionality. The issue is that it now functions in a different way than it did before. As I said, the change was made because the vast majority of users simply want to disconnect from the current network, not turn wifi off totally as that means having to remember to turn it on later. The functionality was changed. It wasn't an accident but rather what the users wanted.
Gimme a break. If something looks like an On/Off toggle, then that's what it should do!
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What next? Making the "Mute" button only partially mute and/or automatically unmute later? Making "Disable Location Tracking" only stop GPS tracking for a few minutes?
Sure, both of those temporary actions could be what many people "intention" as well, but THEN THE BUTTON SHOULD LET THE USER KNOW THAT THE ACTION IS TEMPORARY.
This feedback is so basic to user interaction that it should not even have to be stated.
I was under the impression that the Airplane mode toggle no longer affects WiFi and Bluetooth in iOS 11. So no, airplane mode it isn't. It's going back and forth between setting pages to toggle both WiFi and Bluetooth on and off.
No I disagree, I turn something off from the control center I expect it to be off. There's no way you can argue a different position. That makes no sense.
The general public are not that smart. Most think when you press a button, it's either OFF or ON. That's the problem. Apple made NO mention how these buttons function. None. So people assume ON/OFF. However, we here know that's not the case. Perhaps if Apple made everyone aware of this change, it would not have been a problem.
Honestly, I like it. Sometimes work WIFI sucks due to roaming, building or I want to use Snapchat (blocked on our network), I tap the WIFI button. My old me still thinks it's turning WIFI OFF. I just realized this button does exactly what I want and for the exact reason I have. In the past, I would forget to turn it back on and get home (poor cellular service) and have no signal. Now, problem solved.
Yeah, you keep saying it, but just because you say it doesn't make it a fact.
Show proof this is what users wanted. Were is your third party independent links proving your claims?
Can you not read? I said I use the toggle to disconnect from my current WiFi. It now does exactly what I want it to instead of brute forcing the disconnect by turning the radio off. I've never had any desire to turn the wifi radio off. Why is that surprising?