Electromagnetic engineer discredits Consumer's report on iphone4

[JediZenMaster]

Consumer reports became irrelevant a long time ago i find their reports really not insightful.

 

[Nykwil]

Consumer reports became irrelevant a long time ago i find their reports really not insightful.

I agree, I've not picked up a CR publication in ages nor do I ever find anything relevant to my interests in their reports. However you do have the masses of "sheeple" out there that aren't up to the times and still think outdated mediums like CR are still relevant.

 

[chakraj]

This is just like when economists say the economy would work much better without all of these people messing it up.

Just like apple tests reception with no hand holding the phone, then when you add the hand you get problems....

 

[zizo79]

My friend is an electroBS engineer and he says the same thing !

 

[nebo1ss]

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but they where able to recreate the dropped signal bars. Apple stated that there is a flaw in the representation of the bars vs the signal, so using that as a measurement is questionable to say the very, very least. Quote)

I don't get your logic. The bars are a relative representation not an absolute number. If my car's speedometer is reading 20 MPH higher due to a software issue it does not mean that i cannot use it to recognize a difference in speed when it says 30 MPH vs when it says 60 MPH, What apple has admitted is that the phone gives a false impression of the signal strength on the high side. It does not matter if your phone drops from five bars to two today or it drops from three bars to zero after the apple fix. It still drops when you use the death grip and it should not.

I don't read CR either but I think they are still held in high enough esteem that people will pay attention. The fact is that apple has a PR nightmare on their hands and need to deal with it sooner rather than later.

 

[darngooddesign]

I've stopped reading any threads by sheep that list their "apple equipment" in their signiture, they have one purpose and that is eating grass.

I've decided that people without sigs on a mac forum have nothing of value to add because they take themselves way too seriously. Gee, I wonder if your post will back me up on this.

 

[alecgold]

I don't get your logic. The bars are a relative representation not an absolute number. If my car's speedometer is reading 20 MPH higher due to a software issue it does not mean that i cannot use it to recognize a difference in speed when it says 30 MPH vs when it says 60 MPH, What apple has admitted is that the phone gives a false impression of the signal strength on the high side. It does not matter if your phone drops from five bars to two today or it drops from three bars to zero after the apple fix. It still drops when you use the death grip and it should not.

I don't read CR either but I think they are still held in high enough esteem that people will pay attention. The fact is that apple has a PR nightmare on their hands and need to deal with it sooner rather than later.

If the (mis)representation of the bars is used by CR for measuring the attenuation, the whole of the test is flawed. Apple admitted the bars don't represent the strength of the signal in a useful way. So CR testing would need to imply the measuring of the strength either directly on the antennae-system or they would need to get the iPhone to report a internal measured attenuation that is not flawed in the same way the bars are.

To get your analogy right: if you're doing a 60mph you should see 5 bars, but you can also have 5 bars when doing 30MPH and then see a drop to 2 bars if you're doing 27MPH, where-after you see 1 or no bars at 20MPH.
Then again if you drive in another location, you could have a much better signal strenght and see the same 5 bars at 60MPH and neatly 4 bars at 45, 3 at 30, 2 at 15 and 1 bar at just a walking speed. As Apple said, it's something like the mathematic calculation behind it is serious flawed and not very consistent in it's calculations, or the software that does the maths is erratic.

But I couldn't agree more with you on the PR nightmare they have, and don't seem to deal with. In that respect Apple is an odd company, most other companies would have shouted anything to get the customers, bloggers, CR's, reviewers, Gizmodo's and other half-witted reporters of their back.