Pretty much. With no HDMI at least, this device is pretty much pointless and overpriced.
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Pretty much. With no HDMI at least, this device is pretty much pointless and overpriced.
No question, get the HD PVR. It has video and audio out so you don't need to buy any amplifier/splitters for game recording.
I have also used the firewire application to record from cable box, but am only able to record live not schedule a recording since only lets you select a date up until 2008 sadly.
But if I go with hauppauge pvr wonder what software to use? eyetv? or?
wanna bet. I never talked about cable box. I am talking about HD tuner. Look up eyetv 500. It was an excellent product. This new product from elgato is a half assed solution to a problem created by content providers. If everything came through atsc or clear qam then an hdhomerun would be ideal. You won't need an IR blaster etc. Luckily I am an atsc kinda guy. So hdhomerun is all I need with eyetv 3.0 software.
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Component video will carry 720P or 1080i, which is true HD.
However you still have analog stereo RCAs for audio.
This is my whole debate thing. I saw some youtube video of a guy and his macbook pro, and he said you had to buy extra software that costed quite a bit, with the hauppauge hd pvr. He was only using osx though. I have a windows partition on my iMac and am wondering if I need any additional software on the windows side-- or the mac side. I'd prefer to do my video work on the osx side of things and leave windows for strictly gaming.
Other things that would affect my decision would be stuff like how good their built in codecs and deinterlacers are.
I can't believe it's 2010 and the phrase "IR blasters" is still necessary.
I was a 'media PC' enthusiast for a long time, but after X years of ridiculous IR blaster-level workarounds I'm about ready to give up on true HD for now and get all my content via bittorrent. I get that it's the cablecos' faults for trying to lock things down so much (and I have TWC, one of the worst), but they're the ones who are going to lose my monthly cable bill money because of this crap.
(And don't say "what about Cablecards?". With TWC even if you get a CableCard, you must also get a tuning adapter to tune the SDV channels. Which means one box is just being replaced with another in your living room.)
Well, it isn't actually a "HD-television-box", it is merely a DVR since it has no tuners. And it will be forever that the studios/providers will refuse to allow digital copying of HD or better signal to any device that can easily copy to removable media. You may dislike that all you want, but it won't change. Ever.I had to check my calendar to see if it's really 2010 and people are actually defending a HD-television-box to not have any HD-capable digital connectors.
Impressive.
So, if you don't want one, don't get one. I don't want one.
Cable sucks. Just get sat and one of their DVRs, either company. Done.
Very true, I know hauppauge works with Eyetv software but think I read it had some problems when I looked at it a year or so ago, might have gotten better now. I just wish there was good software for firewire hookup gives me HD and can change channel over firewire.
I have a HD PVR right now, and I use it with EyeTV. The software works pretty well, but it was a bit expensive for the amount that I use it. There is another alternative called HDPVRcapture which was made by one of Hauppauge's engineers. I think it runs about $30-$40, but I opted to go with EyeTV.
I already have eyetv since I have an eyetv 250 so would be no added expense for me.
I got the 250 plus a year or 2 ago. $250 and SD. Now the HD is $200. Nice. I use mine to record gameplay off of my PS3. Would love the HD version, but then I'd have to buy some more component cables and a component multi-amp so I can stream to my TV without the lag when the Eye TV records. Meh.
I love EyeTV Hybrid (an older device) with my rabbit ears. I got rid of my TV, and my iMac IS my TV now. (Someday I’ll adda a projector for really big-screen movie viewing.)
Good to see this system coming to satellite users too! But I’ll stick with free over-the-air broadcasts. Either way, EyeTV 3 is really nice, Mac-quality software.
Good to see this system coming to satellite users too! But I’ll stick with free over-the-air broadcasts. Either way, EyeTV 3 is really nice, Mac-quality software.
Wrong. Tivo from 21k has no component
Tivo didnt' have component till much later. They did, however, have IR blasters, which are a waste with HDMI CEC.
Tivo didnt' have component till much later. They did, however, have IR blasters, which are a waste with HDMI CEC.
Thank YOU!!
I'm just shocked it took 4 pages to bring this little fact up.
And if any of you think the ports are only gonna get nuked in special circumstances .. Yea sure maybe so but those 'special' circumstances will end up being ... ONLY when the device is turned .. ON .. :
This device will be useless maybe even before it ships!
Well, no it wouldn't. But then they'll get sued by the FCC directly, won't need to wait for you and me to whine. Probably depends on their (cable-co's) mood that month whether they want to play that game.
Actually, it would probably come up on the 90 day/DVD release limits of the program rather than whether HBO still works. CP is supposed to be dropped at one of these limits, per that article.
JAT said:
Google "CCI byte", some cablecos are setting the copy protection flag on things they're legally not supposed to. No one can really do much about it. This renders things like TiVo multi-room viewing inoperable. By which I mean to say, my faith in their ever doing the right thing is very, very low, regardless of the FCC.
I'd go satellite of it wasn't for the damn contracts and lack of a good integrated HD dvr box.
Edit: who wants to buy my gently used TiVo HD? Upgraded to 1 terabyte.
You must be a home theater/HD/HTPC newbie. Controlling equipment with CEC? LOL. What planet do you live on?
IR still reigns king in the real world (unfortunately).
I'm completely new to this kind of thing, so don't get too excited if my question annoys you:
Where does this device stream from? The web?
Or do you have to have cable TV?
So far, my way of watching TV is watching TV shows on DVDs, that's it.
Where does this device stream from? The web?
Or do you have to have cable TV?
So far, my way of watching TV is watching TV shows on DVDs, that's it.
Nostromo said:
It sounds like it has to be plugged into an old-school cable set top box to get any "premium" content. It bills itself as being a "new" device, and maybe it is on the Mac platform, but you're still anchored to your cable provider, their ugly set top box (which you have to change the channels on with wired "IR blasters", it's possibly the dumbest thing ever) and their copy protection.