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Elon Musk Meets With Apple CEO Tim Cook Amid Claims of Twitter App Store Dispute [Updated]
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The idea that hate speech is something that can and should be enforced is not shared by as many people as you think. The enforce hate speech laws or rules, you need to designate someone to decide what gets censored and what doesn't, and the people who end up doing that in a society are the people you would least want to. And who are they to decide what the rest of us can think and say?
There is no way to do this without an eventual slide towards tyranny.
If you're OK with the power to censor people based on your political views, you should also be OK with other people having the power to censor you based on their political views. Fair's fair.
Not sure what the point of all this bluster is.
You’re still ignoring that there are rules on Twitter, apple, workplaces, schools, etc for hate speech.
Remind me again are they tyrannical ?
Nah, you can't just refuse to engage with my argument while asking me to keep engaging with yours.
To enforce hate speech laws or rules, you need to designate someone to decide what gets censored and what doesn't, and the people who end up doing that in a society are the people you would least want to. And who are they to decide what the rest of us can think and say?
I wonder what leverage Elon has over Tim
I’m sure Twitter is a treasure trove of information. Anybody know how many shares of Apple stock Elon owns? Maybe one day we will all find out how they resolved this “misunderstanding”.
Tim Cook & Elon Musk see their shadows, does that mean six more weeks of rumors about the bird app being removed from the App Store?
Well, these threads are always good for at least one thing - finding a couple more accounts to slap with an "ignore." It's a shame, since I don't want to only hear one side.
But when people are having a normal conversation about the topic at hand (Musk visiting Cook at the Apple campus) and the next thing you know the thread has been hijacked by screeds that include "woke" and "children having genital surgery" and "left-wing-racists" and on and on and on, ignore it is. I'm sure they'll get to Hunter Biden's laptop soon enough (if they haven't already - I stopped reading).
Most normal people I know don't derail conversations like this. They just live their lives and talk about what's being discussed. Like adults.
But when people are having a normal conversation about the topic at hand (Musk visiting Cook at the Apple campus) and the next thing you know the thread has been hijacked by screeds that include "woke" and "children having genital surgery" and "left-wing-racists" and on and on and on, ignore it is. I'm sure they'll get to Hunter Biden's laptop soon enough (if they haven't already - I stopped reading).
Most normal people I know don't derail conversations like this. They just live their lives and talk about what's being discussed. Like adults.
Well statistically speaking, the "conspiracy theorists" have been right more often than wrong
Why hasnt macrumors reported on Tim Cook restricting AirDrop in China at the request of the CCP?
We participate on platforms where we agree to potentially be censored all the time. This very forum for instance. As long as my governmentally protected right to free speech isn’t being infringed, there’s no issue.
Cite this statistic.Well statistically speaking, the "conspiracy theorists" have been right more often than wrong
And now she calls Elon Musk a white supremacist, while now driving a VW which is a car made by the …. (I won’t say the name as I will probably get banned).
It's the political news section.
That doesn't mean we should all just accept that a discussion of a political news story must lead to off-topic rants.
"Statistically speaking?" Let's see the data to back up that statement.Well statistically speaking, the "conspiracy theorists" have been right more often than wrong
Thats all you do is guess. Ive seen your posts and almost all of them are false propaganda. What say you comrade?
I'm glad it's that simple for you. For the rest of us though, a platform as big and relevant as Twitter is a kind of town square, quite different from a forum for Apple enthusiasts. Being censored for political views on Twitter where a) basically everyone is, and b) there was a good faith expectation that the rules were politically neutral, is different.
Just because a company can write something into its terms of service and act according to those rules, doesn't mean the rules themselves are beyond scrutiny. Although this position of "well it's within their rights to do so" is often used when one wants to avoid the morality debate.
Censoring mean words on the internet might mean less mean words, temporarily at least. But you can't ignore the technical issue, which is that if you determine that "hate speech" is grounds for censorship, you need people to be deciding what hate speech is and who gets censored for it and when. Are you good enough to decide for the rest of us what we get to think and say? I'm not, and I don't think you are either.
The platform owner is good enough to decide. If you don’t like it, use a different platform. It really is that simple. If Musk wants to ban West for posting swastikas, that’s his prerogative. Why should popularity of a platform get to dictate whether or not the platform owner has to use their freedom of speech and freedom of association to assist someone else in making their own speech. What an absurd notion. If there is a critical mass of free speech absolutists, then their chosen platform will be a roaring success. I mean 4chan exists, but of course we see how popular that platform is. Probably because normal people don’t want that kind of garbage in their face every day.
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MR posted an article they based off 9to5Mac way back on Nov 9.
What specifically did you tip them off about a few days ago?
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