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Nothing is stopping people from speaking in a public square. The problem is society have made social media as the only place they can speak. That's their fault, not social media. Now they want to treat social media like they are the government instead of a private business.

Not the only place, the more efficient place. People still express themsleves locally but try reaching the volume of people in a public town square that you can on social media.
 
This is why we need (more enforcement of) antitrust laws and regulations. One person or company should not "singularly hold the power" to easily run another company out of business.
Twitter is a website, it does't need an app to run.
 
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Apple and Google removed Parler only when Trump moved to the platform. Parler's policies did not change;
Poor argument. Trump never joined Parler. Miller created an account for him but he never used it. It's also currently all over the news that Kanye West is trying to get Trump to join now though.
 
The previous version of Twitter was filled with CSAM that the former Trust and Safety people refused to remove, Musk's version is actually purging that filth.

Pardon me if I think a few 'mean tweets' are a fair price to pay for that.
You sound like Elon's PR team. Fortunately for you, Twitter is no longer banning some accounts spreading misinformation so carry on over there.

 
Something tells me that MacRumors enjoys Twitter snipe-bait posts...

I'll refrain from taking a side so I can sit on the sidelines watching the bomb-tossing like a tennis match on this thread...
 
Update: Musk says that he and Cook resolved a misunderstanding about Twitter potentially being removed from the App Store, which Cook said Apple had not considered.
Haha. Musk was served some fake news from his Russian bot platform, I mean Twitter
 
Some low level staffer at the app store said something unauthorized to feel macho, which happens all the time IRL to some people in a position of perceived authority.
 
Twitter is a website, it does't need an app to run.

It may not absolutely "need" an app to run but it can be very beneficial. Not having an app available for a notable portion of a market (given things like Apple's dominance in mobile OS) can have a significant impact on a business.

Regardless, I was specifically responding to a post stating that Tim/Apple "hold the power to put Twitter out of its misery" by dropping the app. My point was that no person or company should have that kind of power or control, and is a reason for antitrust laws and regulations.
 
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boomer level arguments

Victimhood? tell that to my friend who was stabbed (completely at random) while walking to get ice cream. She's alive but scarred for life. https://www.wbaltv.com/article/mount-vernon-baltimore-stabbing-hunter-street/40970451 Democrats encourage violence, and their policies kill.
Sorry to hear about your friend. Sadly you are making that horrible incident political and blaming politics versus the actual perp. Who instigated the January 6 insurrection that lead to deaths and chaos? Who lies to the public every chance they get caught blaming everyone but themselves? Which political side pulls publicity stunts for attention but does little for their constituents? To rile up the right, they just yell out bogus claims like "They are trying to take your guns" meanwhile your social security is being siphoned and no-one is the wiser. It's truly sad.
 
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It may not absolutely "need" an app to run but it can be very beneficial. Not having an app available for a notable portion of a market (given things like Apple's dominance in mobile OS) can have a significant impact on a business.

Regardless, I was specifically responding to a post stating that Tim/Apple "hold the power to put Twitter out of its misery" by dropping the app. My point was that no person or company should have that kind of power or control, and is a reason for antitrust laws and regulations.
Apple has every right to decide what apps they are going to offer in their store. It is a business decision: marketing, branding and product placement are factors that impact Apple’s broader business. For example, Apple isn’t obligated to offer porn apps in their store. They get to make these business decisions. If customers stop buying Apple products, then Apple will need to deal with that too.

I am not saying Apple should remove Twitter from the App Store. I am simply saying they have every right to do so if they believe it is harmful to their overall business strategy and brand.
 
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Even winning a substantial lottery jackpot requires the help of other people. Literally nobody acquires wealth on their own.

Nobody gets to where they are in life without the help and dependence on other people.

Yeah true.

Anyway, the fact that someone calls themself the richest man in the world when their company barely makes a billion profit per quarter and their whole company is helped with subsidies just shows there is a massive problem.

It's a policy failure and a failure of markets.

If Steve Jobs was alive today his net worth would be 11X (eleven times!) less than Musk yet he was a big shareholder in Apple and Disney, both companies make sooooo much more than Tesla ever will.
 
The difference between how an adult handles situations vs how a child.
Twitter will invariably institute content moderation.
Free speech isn't free. There are consequences for speech.
 
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Apple has every right to decide what apps they are going to offer in their store. It is a business decision: marketing, branding and product placement are factors that impact Apple’s broader business. For example, Apple isn’t obligated to offer porn apps in their store. They get to make these business decisions. If customers stop buying Apple products, then Apple will need to deal with that too.

I am not saying Apple should remove Twitter from the App Store. I am simply saying they have every right to do so if they believe it is harmful to their overall business strategy and brand.

The "right" a company has can depend on how much dominance they may have in a particular market and the reason/intent behind the blocking or restrictions. Android and iOS control nearly 100% of the mobile OS market with iOS currently having around 55% share in the U.S. Apple not only limits app access (restricting alternative app stores, sideloading, etc.) on iPhones/IOS they sell but also those sold by third-party retailers, and even restricts what end users can do. Antitrust laws and regulations are meant to prevent dominant companies from using their position to unfairly control/influence activities in the particular market(s).

If Apple were to show that removal of Twitter from the app store is justified, it wouldn't necessarily be an issue. My main point was that companies having too much control of a market (like mobile OS) can be problematic, and why antitrust laws and regulations are necessary.
 
The "right" a company has can depend on how much dominance they may have in a particular market and the reason/intent behind the blocking or restrictions. Android and iOS control nearly 100% of the mobile OS market with iOS currently having around 55% share in the U.S. Apple not only limits app access (restricting alternative app stores, sideloading, etc.) on iPhones/IOS they sell but also those sold by third-party retailers, and even restricts what end users can do. Antitrust laws and regulations are meant to prevent dominant companies from using their position to unfairly control/influence activities in the particular market(s).

If Apple were to show that removal of Twitter from the app store is justified, it wouldn't necessarily be an issue. My main point was that companies having too much control of a market (like mobile OS) can be problematic, and why antitrust laws and regulations are necessary.
Elon played the victim by exaggerating an issue that didn’t exist to begin with. Apple became a bad guy to many based on misinformation put out by a known troll.
 
Elon played the victim by exaggerating an issue that didn’t exist to begin with
How do we know it didn't? It is entirely believable that Apple would threaten this or bring the topic up. And then after cooler heads prevailed, Apple backpedals and we hear it was never going to happen with Elon being a good guy and going along with that narrative.
 
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How do we know it didn't? It is entirely believable that Apple would threaten this or bring the topic up. And then after cooler heads prevailed, Apple backpedals and we hear it was never going to happen with Elon being a good guy and going along with that narrative.
So have we ever known Elon to back pedal when he was in the right? Has Trump ever backpedaled when he was caught red handed? LMAO! Stop it! You guys will create excuses and narratives instead of just accepting reality that you see with your own eyes and letting it go. Victims.
 
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So have we ever known Elon to back pedal when he was in the right? Has Trump ever backpedaled when he was caught red handed? LMAO! Stop it! You guys will create excuses and narratives instead of just accepting reality that you see with your own eyes and letting it go. Victims.
If you're going to make up a story, I can do the same. We both wrote tales of fiction there.

Maybe one is right, maybe neither is!
 
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