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Elon Musk Sues Apple and OpenAI Over Alleged App Store Conspiracy Against X and Grok
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This guy is such a tool. Cybertruck, DOGE, California diner with the Tesla Optimus robot that stopped working shortly after the opening. I man you can't make this stuff up. Some people worship this guy like he is a God. Unreal IMHO.
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It should be noted that Elon is also suing a bunch of companies in an effort to force them to buy ads on X.
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Critical thinking suggests: colluding to collectively boycott, resulting in limiting market competition to exclude a rival is illegal.
Again, read point 1. I'm not supporting the action. Those who supported the DMA should be supporting Elon objectively but they remain silent.
hardware integration isn't as malleable as software integration. Musk ( and cult following/promoters ) are hand waving at the EU DMA law.
Digital Markets Act - Wikipedia
It is a bit of a slippery slope. Pragmatically the "user-selectable choice" could possibly be more flexible over time, but in this immature state it is likely more of a hack. In part, it is there so that Apple Intelligence can 'punt' stuff to ChapGPT that it cannot handle yet. (or perhaps ever).
Use ChatGPT with Apple Intelligence on iPhone
With Apple Intelligence on iPhone, get more in-depth answers from Siri and compose text in Writing Tools when you enable the ChatGPT extension.
The 'free' version is in part an agreement that Apple struck with OpenAI to get this out the door quickly.
for example from the Apple support page.
"... If you access the ChatGPT extension without an account, only the information described above will be sent to ChatGPT. OpenAl does not receive any information tied to your Apple Account. OpenAl must process your data solely for the purpose of fulfilling your request, and not store your request or any responses it provides unless required under applicable laws. OpenAl also must not use your request to improve or train its models. ..."
Whatever API Apple whipped together doesn't really enforce that. On the App Store, there has evolved required descriptions to outline how data privacy might be used or abused. For very long time though there was nothing.
User selection for 'search engine' still doesn't come with disclosures. For far too long, OS X allowed random apps to pull data from Contacts/Address Book with not user permission. That got fixed over time.
The fallacy of this lawsuit is that trying to drive faster evolution by lawsuit. Even if Apple hasn't scoped the problem with privacy trade-offs and mapped out the permissions controls they need to whip out anything just to expand the
If want to relate to 'curation' it is throwing everything possible up on the wall before even know what it or if it authentic.
DMA is about competition in relatively mature markets. This is far more closer to saying have to invoke DMA in the beta testing process. ( Apple Intelligence is no where near being mature. Lots of what was initially talked about hasn't even shipped. And the ChatGPT extension is partially to cover some of those initial 'punts' . )
The claims of the lawsuit are mostly frivolous and far more driven on trying to outrun the AI bubble bursting than anything that the DMA is primarily structured to address.
Why would Apple build a targeted ads business when they already are partners in an targeted ads business? ( to run highly redundant businesses in parallel? ) They ask for and receive 10's of billions per year for it. As the targeted ads work better , Apple asks for more money each year How are the not deeply integrated there? And if Apple asks for more money each year why wouldn't Google have to work harder to do even more targeting to generate the revenue to pay that cost?
If making money this why was so entirely wholesomely clean and righteous why Apple go through huge gyrations to hide the amounts?
That is an excellent point. His car company denies access to Apple but he sues Apple not for denying access (Grok is in the Apple App Store, after all), but for not promoting his product as a “must-have.”
Again, not what I said.
DMA says that if ChatGPT can be integrated with Siri, so should Xai if they want to due to DMA's interoperability obligations.
To be clear, that's not what I'm advocating for. But those who backed EU DMA should be backing Elon for this.
Well, that is ironic since Elon won't allow CarPlay in Teslas. He has his walls as well. Pretty sure Apple would have been fine with Grok if it was as good a couple of years ago when Apple started working on this AI partnership.
By the way, Grok is integrated into Teslas. No competitors. Interesting...
I guess if he had succeeded at buying OpenAI, he wouldn't be upset about Apple's choice.
By the way, Grok is integrated into Teslas. No competitors. Interesting...
I guess if he had succeeded at buying OpenAI, he wouldn't be upset about Apple's choice.