Elon Musk: 'We've Had Promising Conversations With Apple About Starlink Connectivity'

[upandown]

Apple is going to be piiiiiiiisedd

 

[boss.king]

he was responding to a tweet.

weird how everyone hates the guy, yet, in 10 years, we're all going to be benefitting from products he was involved in making.

What products are those? Is that when the CyberTruck or full self driving are actually going to ship?

 

[Realityck]

Apple is using Globalstar satellites for the endeavor at the current time, but SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk claimed today that his company has had "some promising conversations with Apple about Starlink connectivity."

Hey Musk, if you allow Tesla’s to allow CarPlay as a option, then we might consider StarLink connectivity.

 

[840quadra]

How about CarPlay in Teslas? Yeesh

Would not be surprised if he poised it as "hey if you adopt starlink, we can likely find a way to incorporate CarPlay for ya guys".

But yes, seriously that has to be frustrating for Tesla owners to not have that or AA. Just a no go for me (personally) if those aren't incorporated into a car I am purchasing.

 

[BobSc]

I’m assuming all the Cellular, WiFi and Bluetooth turn off when in SAT mode.
And what’s the power draw and heat generated in SAT mode? It’ll say don’t hold it near your head. Probably limited to once every few minutes.

Can’t wait to read the headlines: “Apple iPhone 14 users overwhelm and crash the satellite.”
Apple will disable this feature until they can roll it out slowly or install their own SAT.

Interesting insights. Thanks. Are you a satellite engineer?

 

[stockseer]

Actually with CarPlay, it's merely mirroring portions of the iPhone; so a 14 should or could similarly send an SOS if there was a crash or emergency.

 

[JosephAW]

Interesting insights. Thanks. Are you a satellite engineer?

Thanks. No just an average Joe.

 

[csnwbd2251]

Ah ha.. this gets interesting. as I think one way to invest in this is a tiny infrared module company that works with low-orbiting satellites already; but hasn't note if it's Globalstar, SpaceX or both (+ NASA)... that's LightPath Technologies (LPTH). If anyone knows that would be great; I think Starlink was awaiting FCC authorization for bird-to-bird communication aside ground stations; and I presume they have that by now. That might also be a holdup in going beyond the 'emergency SOS' signals only. Ask FCC?

Finally, an intelligent comment...

 

[nfl46]

Does this guy ever shut his mouth? Jeez.

 

[mansplains]

The only problem being that Musk wants the constellation to consist of 14'000 satellites, replaced every 5 years. This is in no way responsible towards the environment. And for what, just so that the ping is a tiny bit lower? No thank you.

If Tim Apple is serious about wanting to be environmentally friendly with the company, then he cannot use Starlink.

You're right, there will be no more technological advancements in this timeline, all things will be as bad to the environment in perpetuity as they are now... Just like how all of the streets are full of horsesh*t because there's too many horses, transportation hasn't evolved...

 

[gmanist1000]

Ignoring everybody’s feelings about Musk… wouldn’t using the 5G spectrum be a better experience for users rather than having to point my phone at a random satellite in space like Apple’s implementation?

 

[Gasu E.]

weird how everyone hates the guy, yet, in 10 years, we're all going to be benefitting from products he was involved in making.

You think it's weird that people "hate" the guy, because of something that hasn't happened, isn't about to happen, and you are just predicting will happen 10 years from now?

 

[ProfessionalFan]

I'm just curious what this new feature is gonna cost after the 2 years are up

 

[_Spinn_]

Ignoring everybody’s feelings about Musk… wouldn’t using the 5G spectrum be a better experience for users rather than having to point my phone at a random satellite in space like Apple’s implementation?

Sure seems like it would be. Though we’ll have to see if the Starlink implementation actually works as well as advertised.

 

[LlamaLarry]

Tmobile and Starlink are already trying to figure out how to get it working in existing phones using existing spectrum (2024), so it seems like a no brainer to actual develop a radio that accesses Starlink directly.

 

[ninetyCent]

So why is this globalstar solution better than working with starlink? Is the coverage for tmo-starlink not gonna be as vast as they claim?

 

[Gasu E.]

for those of us in rural settings, Starlink has been a life changer. Criticize the man and question his end game, but a service like Starlink would never happen if it relied on traditional financing.

What's the financing angle? I looked online and all I could find was a recent rejection of funding by the FCC?

 

[HorstBockman]

Were these discussions over shots of JD and reefers?

 

[jhoff8600]

Do you guys not see that this is Musk throwing shade at Apple? This is an insult as a back handed complement. He's working on a Starlink feature with T-Mobile where phones can connect with low orbit satellites using common 5g spectrum without all the special hardware and software apple used in the new iPhone 14. in this case the phone would work, well, like a phone when connecting to satellites.

I have no Idea if that will ever actually work well, it's just what Musk is referencing here. This is just Musk being smug.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Do it! My sister has Starlink and it's actually really solid. 100-150 Mbps most of the time.

 

[CapitalIdea]

Do you guys not see that this is Musk throwing shade at Apple? This is an insult as a back handed complement. He's working on a Starlink feature with Verizon where phones can connect with low orbit satellites using common 5g spectrum without all the special hardware and software apple used in the new iPhone 14. in this case the phone would work, well, like a phone when connecting to satellites.

I have no Idea if that will ever actually work well, it's just what Musk is referencing here. This is just Musk being smug.

You mean T-mobile. Verizon wouldn’t waste their time with him.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

I don't think Apple would appreciate him talking about on-going discussions.

 

[Danfango]

This is likely utter and total rubbish. The antenna dynamics are impossible. Literally 100% impossible.

Musk wants his share price to rise...

 

[twolf2919]

So are the iPhone 14 and Globalstar emulating cell tower, or are they using spaced-based signals?

I don't even know what "spaced-based signals" is supposed to mean. Even if Globestar emulated cell towers with their satellites, the signal from those satellites would obviously still be space-based. In answer to what I think you're asking, I think the iPhone will communicate with the satellites the way a satellite phone would - i.e. not using cellular signaling.

 

[Bug-Creator]

He's working on a Starlink feature with Verizon where phones can connect with low orbit satellites using common 5g spectrum without

Just don't let the laws of physics hit you...

There is a reason why cell towers have to be spaced so close to get any useable coverage, there is a reason why proper satellite phones have big antennas and there is a reason why you have to do the dance_and_point thing with an iPhone14 to connect to a satellite at a rate that would have been considered insufficient even for 1980s dial up.....