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I guess you've bought Musk's line that he wants out due to Twitter's fake users? Perhaps you missed his tweets claiming Twitter was overrun with bots and fake users *before* he did the deal. He did the deal anyway. After the price dropped and it was obvious he overpaid now he wants out of the deal, because, wait for it, he claims Twitter is overrun with bots and fake users.
the bots were more than what twitter publicly disclosed.

and the price dropped to around end of march levels, right before elon proposed to buy twitter. not sure what argument you're talking about with respect to "price dropped".
 
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People with Asperger's often struggle in social situations and can come across as weird, rude or irritating, and have a tendency to say stupid or childish things. Elon is just doing this on a massive scale in the biggest social setting there is... the internet. I honestly think he means well, and most people just completely misunderstand him. He is just a mega geek who wants to turn his childhood sci-fi dreams into reality. He doesn't care about money, other than as a means to achieve those goals. Yes he has lots of bad opinions and messes up a lot... but his illness also gives him a way of thinking and obsessive determination that has helped him to build companies that have finally achieved things that nobody else would have even attempted. One thing's for sure he has done a lot more for the world than the people who sit around criticising him. The world in general needs more people who are willing to take risks and actually get things done...
 
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I have no dislike for Musk and I think his cars are flipping awesome but this looks like a "Hey look at me, I want to be relevant here" cry for attention. It's kind of sad because he doesn't need to do that to get noticed.
if it was, he would have done a quote retweet instead of a reply to someone's tweet.
 
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I think it's still as valid a complaint as it ever was ... and was for Disney to demand a big discount on the selling price, and then to ultimately back out anyway.

Musk tweets a lot of stuff because clearly, he likes to joke around or attack things he's not happy with, and Twitter happens to be his platform of choice to voice those things? It's no different than what I see people do on Facebook or other social media sites all the time, really. It's at least a fair argument on his part to say that "despite his initial concerns that Twitter was over run with bots and fake users", he was convinced that wasn't a serious issue by the time he made the deal, and then realized it was worse than Twitter's people led him to believe.

Honestly, I don't care if he gets out of the Twitter deal or he doesn't. Whatever .... I think if he winds up stuck with it, he'll come up with some new ways to use it or to leverage it to benefit his other companies, so it won't be a total loss. Probably wasn't one of his smarter decisions to buy it in the first place, but may have partially been an attempt to call their bluff and turned into a commitment? None of it is that relevant to Starlink or Tesla or to the PowerWall whole house battery pack sales, or PV solar sales, or even his "Boring company", and certainly not to Space-X.
He stated Twitter was overrun with bots and fake uses and then claimed he backed out of the deal because it wasn't disclosed to him that Twitter was overrun with bots and fake users. That's called being a liar. And welcher. And the court will handle it appropriately. Not to mention he waived his right to due diligence so his entire claim is moot anyway. His big mouth is going to cost him 10 figures.

That is why I openly questioned why anyone would want to do business with him.
 
He stated Twitter was overrun with bots and fake uses and then claimed he backed out of the deal because it wasn't disclosed to him that Twitter was overrun with bots and fake users. That's called being a liar. And welcher. And the court will handle it appropriately. Not to mention he waived his right to due diligence so his entire claim is moot anyway. His big mouth is going to cost him 10 figures.

That is why I openly questioned why anyone would want to do business with him.
Twitter disclosed 5% bot figure. Elon suspect that is a lie. It violates closing conditions.

He waived pre-signing due diligence in exchange for "broad information rights" which is discussed in detail in the agreement. Twitter has not completed that part of the step.
 
Twitter disclosed 5% bot figure. Elon suspect that is a lie. It violates closing conditions.

He waived pre-signing due diligence in exchange for "broad information rights" which is discussed in detail in the agreement. Twitter has not completed that part of the step.
Elon didn't rely on the 5% figure because he openly stated it was far more than that before he did the deal, meaning he did the deal with the full understanding and belief the number was far greater than 5%. It begins and ends with that. He'll be laughed out of the courtroom after he writes a 10-figure parting check. And Twitter did supply him with all the information they deemed reasonable for how they arrived at 5%. He claims he needs more, which is interesting since he already said before the deal he knew it was far more than 5%. Maybe his left brain should consult with his right brain for the information he claims he already had anyway.
 
the bots were more than what twitter publicly disclosed.
Based on what? Elon's claims to that effect? Regardless, it doesn't matter whether its true or not since Elon openly claimed the number was far more than 5% before he did the deal. If he knew it was far more than 5% then why would he still do the deal, then later claim he wants to back out because it's far more than 5%? What do you think a judge will say to his absurd claimed reason for backing out of the deal?
and the price dropped to around end of march levels, right before elon proposed to buy twitter. not sure what argument you're talking about with respect to "price dropped".
The price dropped after he entered the deal, with the overall downturn in the market.
 
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Elon didn't rely on the 5% figure because he openly stated it was far more than that before he did the deal, meaning he did the deal with the full understanding and belief the number was far greater than 5%. It begins and ends with that. He'll be laughed out of the courtroom after he writes a 10-figure parting check. And Twitter did supply him with all the information they deemed reasonable for how they arrived at 5%. He claims he needs more, which is interesting since he already said before the deal he knew it was far more than 5%. Maybe his left brain should consult with his right brain for the information he claims he already had anyway.

i don't recall which tweet where it suggested he suspect it was more than 5% before the deal. i'm sure he suspected it was a lot, but i don't recall specifically he said more than 5%. do you have that tweet?

also, the whistleblower complaint more than likely violates closing conditions regarding pending liabilities. to which was recently added to the lawsuit. elon has plenty to work with in this case.
 
Based on what? Elon's claims to that effect? Regardless, it doesn't matter whether its true or not since Elon openly claimed the number was far more than 5% before he did the deal. If he knew it was far more than 5% then why would he still do the deal, then later claim he wants to back out because it's far more than 5%? What do you think a judge will say to his absurd claimed reason for backing out of the deal?

The price dropped after he entered the deal, with the overall downturn in the market.
based on the whistleblower complaint. that complaint was entered into the lawsuit as evidence recently.

price is still above as before elon started buying twitter shares. elon had every intention of paying the premium.
 
Years ago? Uhm, FSD went up to $15k just 3 days ago, lol. I bought it three times already, and let me tell you, it was worth every penny now that I have access to the early release beta. It's mind blowing.
Use just now? 2016 is just now? Yes back then it was $12,000 and recently increased to $15,000 but still doesn’t work.
 
based on the whistleblower complaint. that complaint was entered into the lawsuit as evidence recently.
Musk backed out of the deal before the whistleblower's complaint. So unless Elon has a time machine he can't claim that's his excuse for backing out. He is in constructive breach of the contract, which occurred the day he openly reneged on the deal. The fact information developed afterwards isn't going reverse his breach. Plus there's nothing in the whistleblower's complaint that states the company has information which contradicts their 5% fake-account projection.
price is still above as before elon started buying twitter shares. elon had every intention of paying the premium.
What difference does the current stock price make? He's locked into a deal to pay $54.20/share. When the market dropped after he signed the deal he decided he wanted to back out.
 
i don't recall which tweet where it suggested he suspect it was more than 5% before the deal. i'm sure he suspected it was a lot, but i don't recall specifically he said more than 5%. do you have that tweet?
He not only claimed openly stated Twitter was overrun with bots and spam he claimed one of the reasons he wanted to buy Twitter was to fix the problem. This will be a tough one to explain to the judge.
also, the whistleblower complaint more than likely violates closing conditions regarding pending liabilities. to which was recently added to the lawsuit. elon has plenty to work with in this case.
There are no closing conditions because Elon waived his right to due diligence. Elon's only recourse is proving outright fraud on the part of Twitter, which he's nowhere close to proving.
 
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I’m assuming all the Cellular, WiFi and Bluetooth turn off when in SAT mode.
And what’s the power draw and heat generated in SAT mode? It’ll say don’t hold it near your head. Probably limited to once every few minutes. :rolleyes:
Think of it as a beacon or smoke signal for now.
 
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The only problem being that Musk wants the constellation to consist of 14'000 satellites, replaced every 5 years. This is in no way responsible towards the environment. And for what, just so that the ping is a tiny bit lower? No thank you.

If Tim Apple is serious about wanting to be environmentally friendly with the company, then he cannot use Starlink.
Musk was inspired by the movie Wall-E.
 
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Just don't let the laws of physics hit you...
There is a reason why cell towers have to be spaced so close to get any useable coverage, there is a reason why proper satellite phones have big antennas and there is a reason why you have to do the dance_and_point thing with an iPhone14 to connect to a satellite at a rate that would have been considered insufficient even for 1980s dial up.....
The satellites that the iPhone 14 connects to are nearly 3x further away than Starlink satellites. Even with this starlink and T-Mobile partnership, they said it’s very limited bandwidth.
 
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Use just now? 2016 is just now? Yes back then it was $12,000 and recently increased to $15,000 but still doesn’t work.
What are you talking about? It was not $12,000 in 2016.
A quick Google search shows it was raised to $12k earlier this year and it was $3,000 in 2016.
In 2020 I remember it was around $7,000.
 
Starlink? Whatever... fairly certain this story is 100% in Elon's head.

Interesting that Apple went with GlobalStar rather than Iridium. I'm assuming because of cost and the lesser-demanding (relatively speaking) use case they're aiming the service at - at least for the time being. For anyone unfamiliar with Satellite Communicators, the cheaper SPOT system (which uses GlobalStar) doesn't have the best reputation for coverage, speed and reliability. The now-Garmin owned InReach system uses Iridium, which has better coverage and is generally quite reliable (usual caveats regarding satellite comms notwithstanding) but is more expensive (both device and ongoing subscription cost).

I'm not about to ditch my InReach anytime soon (non-emergency two-way comms and regular, reliable ping to base is too useful) but it's still a nice feature to see that will invariably end up saving some lives.
 
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