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Starlink is currently at 35%, approaching 50% of all airlines. Limiting your airline choice because of Elon?
All 4 major cruise providers announced starlink adoption. No internet on a cruise for you?
You're going to drive an EV and avoid 25% of all chargers to stick it to Elon?
What happens when your energy provider installs Tesla batteries/solar?
I’m not the person you’re replying to, but other than the grid scale storage, yes it is pretty easy to avoid Elon’s products:
- I don’t use wifi when I fly regardless of satellite provider
- I have never and will likely never take a cruise
- I have owned an EV for 6 years, and thus far (rough numbers) 95% of my charging has come from the outlet in my garage, 4% from Electrify America, and 1% from EVGo
 
market cap = stock price x shares outstanding



And retail sold, realized gains. some winners, some losers.
"Retail sold, realized gains". Yes, some did, sure. But net, retail's cost basis sits in the $160–225 run-up window and the stock is at $157. Somebody is holding every one of those shares right now, and it isn't the insiders. They're locked up until August. We'll see how the "winners and losers" ledger looks after 44% of shares unlock by September. In the mean time, keep propping up this sham/scam.
 
I’m not the person you’re replying to, but other than the grid scale storage, yes it is pretty easy to avoid Elon’s products:
- I don’t use wifi when I fly regardless of satellite provider

Or soon when you're in an emergency and you need 911 without cellular.

- I have never and will likely never take a cruise
ok

- I have owned an EV for 6 years, and thus far (rough numbers) 95% of my charging has come from the outlet in my garage, 4% from Electrify America, and 1% from EVGo
Good luck on your next EV purchase when they adopt Tesla's standard port.
 
What net benefit have we had from billionaires such as Musk in the last decade? Benn Jordan does an excellent job at highlighting their agendas and how you will own nothing.

A personal device carried by you everywhere for everything - it's a wet dream for them.
 
If you limit your consumption of products to only inventors that you politically agree with, there are a lot of bad things people have done that would prevent you from using a lot of technology.
Yeah but those people used to invent their stuff without going fully public with their arrogance and awfulness and actively trying to make everyone else awful too.
 
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Great.

average is $181. Retail loss would be about $2-$4 billion selling at $157. not $400 billion wipe.



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Fair... on aggregate dollars, you're closer than my $400B. The float caps real losses in the low tens of billions, not hundreds. Your point, written that way, stands; we are simply disputing different definitions of "wiped out."


The valuation wipe is still ~$900B from peak, and the part that matters holds: whoever owns the float bought high, insiders are locked up green until August, and 44% of shares unlock by September. Ask me then how the winners/losers ledger looks.

We seek safe harbour. Lol. What a canard.
 
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Fair... on aggregate dollars, you're closer than my $400B. The float caps real losses in the low tens of billions, not hundreds. Your point, written that way, stands; we are simply disputing different definitions of "wiped out."


The valuation wipe is still ~$900B from peak, and the part that matters holds: whoever owns the float bought high, insiders are locked up green until August, and 44% of shares unlock by September. Ask me then how the winners/losers ledger looks.

Yes is disingenuous to focus on $400B or $900B. that's all I'm saying.
 
Or soon when you're in an emergency and you need 911 without cellular.


Good luck on your next EV purchase when they adopt Tesla's standard port.

- Apple doesn’t use Starlink for their satellite emergency service, and I never travel outside of cellular range anyhow.

- Vehicle manufacturers and charge providers do not pay a royalty or licensing fee to Tesla for using NACS. Regardless of the port on my next EV, I can continue to not use Superchargers if I so choose.
 
- Apple doesn’t use Starlink for their satellite emergency service, and I never travel outside of cellular range anyhow.

- Vehicle manufacturers and charge providers do not pay a royalty or licensing fee to Tesla for using NACS. Regardless of the port on my next EV, I can continue to not use Superchargers if I so choose.

You're assuming OEMs don't pay anything to display live Supercharger status on screens (for those that support it). So far not proven. You would need to find a car that doesn't do this. Good luck in the future.
 



You're assuming OEMs don't pay anything to display live Supercharger status on screens (for those that support it). So far not proven. You would need to find a car that doesn't do this. Good luck in the future.
I know in some of these situations I can only do so much, but that won’t stop me from doing as much as I can.
 
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My home is not connected to the grid and does not and will not have any Elon Musk associated products in it.
you implied you were connected to the grid earlier now you're not. electric companies sell electricity and you said "mine doesn't buy anything from Tesla".

you own a Rivian car. hard to believe you aren't connected to the grid in anyway.

you're changing things on the fly. odd.
 
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