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eMac and Quicktime 6

I think eMac with Xserve makes the point for business use that the cube should have been. (except the cube needed to be priced like the cheapest iMac. It only needs to ship with a telephony app - voice mail, being able to plug a Caller ID capture phone into it for logging and automatically pulling up served client accounts. Oh, and the compatible teleconferencing thing, that qt6 is edging closer to reality.

Tons of bidness werkstations are phone jockeying in front of a screen pulling up database, and little else.
 
MPEG 4 and Sorenson Pro 3

We ran a few video compression tests this morning using QT 6.

OS X 10.1.4 running on my G3 500 PowerBook. I wanted to try this on a slower machine. I also have a dual gig sitting next to my PowerBook, but that was just toooo easy.

Our QT Pro key worked fine. We were very impressed for the MPEG4 1-pass VBR included with QT Pro. Used the exact same settings for Sorenson Squeeze and QT Pro. A :30 DV promo was used as the source. Sorenson encoded faster by about 20%.

MPEG 4 files size 4.1 megs
Sorenson 1-pass file size 3.0 megs
Sorenson 2-pass file size 3.1 megs
Encoded audio at 96k video at 130.

Sorenson and MPEG4 were just about the same visual quality, but Sorenson played smoother on my G3. When both compressed files were open and playing the MPEG4 file dropped frames and stopped at times. When I closed the Sorenson movie the MPEG file played without problems at normal size. If I doubled the size of the MPEG4 movie or played full screen the movie would again drop frames and the audio would stutter. Sorenson did not have these problems. The new MPEG4 trailers available on the Apple site looked wonderful, but still had some of the problems I pointed out above. Their files are compressed from MJPEG last I knew from either a betacam or Digibeta source. This does improve the overall quality after compression.

Encoded the same file using Sorenson 2-pass VBR. Sorenson wins here IMHO. Color was better and the full screen video played smooth, full screen was much cleaner.

QT Pro and MPEG 4, not bad at all for $29.00. We have $400.00 in vested in Squeeze and SV3 Pro.

Just a short report.:)
 
So how do I convince someone to buy a new iMac??

Also, what was the other announcement, you know, by Sculley?
 
Originally posted by shadowfax0
So how do I convince someone to buy a new iMac??
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The new imac has a DVD-R and it's Faster, top of the line model anyways.

As far as the low end model ... I don't know. I know if I have to choose I would pick the eMac just because of the 17" screen and 1280 x 960 resolution. Price aside. Screen size is why more important to me than LCD vs. CRT.
 
Re: Divx

Originally posted by Sublime
QT6 breaks divx... anyone else get scrambled video?
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I haven't tried it yet, but since the FAQ states that QT6 isn't compatable with DivX, I'm not surprised.

From the FAQ:
Will Apple MPEG-4 interoperate with other MPEG-4 technologies?
The MPEG-4 specification is large and contains provisions for many technologies. However, any .mp4 file containing compliant MPEG-4 video and AAC audio should interoperate with QuickTime 6. If you find any interoperability issues please let us know.
Other technologies that report to be MPEG-4 compliant, yet are not contained in an .mp4 file, will not interoperate with QuickTime 6 or other MPEG-4 players. Divx and MPEG-4 from Microsoft are common examples.


Gabriel
 
If I have to buy another freaking key...

I bought a Mac QT key three years ago, lost it when I had to give up my old work computer for a new Dell Laptop last year. Then I bought a Windows QT key last year. Then when i bought my new Ti800 I found out that the Win QT key will not work on Mac OS. So I bought a new Mac QT key.

If I have to buy another freaking QT key I will be Pee Oh'd. Three freakin keys within 12 months is crazy, when I am only using one computer. What the hell.

(In case you didn't see, current QT keys will not work in the final release of QT 6.
 
Re: Avi's?

Originally posted by ShaolinMiddleFinger
Damn, I was really hoping on QT6 to play AVIs. This sucks. Maybe in the final release it will....
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I use DivX Dr. to play them.
http://doctor.3ivx.com/
Its a bit of a workaround, but if the file is worth it, its worth the trouble. Right now, unfortunately, some files will only play on the OS 9 version of QT after translating, though. I hope that will be fixed in QT 6, regardless of whether it includes native DivX play.

Gabriel
 
What the hell did john sculley announce

Who knows what ground shattering news john sculley announced today, I haven't seen squat yet.
 
Re: Re: Avi's?

Originally posted by GabrielX


I use DivX Dr. to play them.
http://doctor.3ivx.com/
Its a bit of a workaround, but if the file is worth it, its worth the trouble. Right now, unfortunately, some files will only play on the OS 9 version of QT after translating, though. I hope that will be fixed in QT 6, regardless of whether it includes native DivX play.

Gabriel
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Thanks! It works! I can finally watch Avi's! Woo hoo! Thank goodness there's Macrumors forums!!!
 
Re: QT Key does work for 6

Originally posted by jaykk
My key for Mac OS works for QT 6 preview/beta.
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Which is cool of apple to do. I dondon't think anyone has been contesting that, the pro key works with the preview.

But you should take care to write it down before you install the preview, because I imagine the preview install could easily overwrite it, then you wouldn't know what your key was, and would have to buy another one sooner than the official qt6 release.
 
Originally posted by Macmaniac
I think this is the end of the 15in CRT iMac, unless they strip it to a really low price model for $600, it looks like the end.
Possible config for a $600 iMac
600mhz G3
30gb HD
128mb ram
2 fire wire
2usb
cdrw?
I don't know if this is realistic.
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looks unrealistic, maybe just add a combo drive, 256 megs of ram, 800mhz g3, 60 gig drive n sell it as the same price as the current top model of the classic imac
 
Re: New Audio Compression & iPod

Originally posted by MacKenzie999
Hey folks...

Does anyone know if the new audio compression format might be compatible with iPod (assuming some software update), or is there hardware necessary for playback preventing this?

Just wondering
-Mike
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Yeah, I'm wondering too.

I'm assuming that they made the ipod firmware updatable with this very thing in mind.

God, I can't begin to imagine re-importing all those tunes... I have 18 gig of MP3s. *sigh* But the quality improvement (and any space savings) would be much appreciated.
 
Re: Re: New Audio Compression & iPod

Originally posted by Macette

God, I can't begin to imagine re-importing all those tunes... I have 18 gig of MP3s. *sigh* But the quality improvement (and any space savings) would be much appreciated.
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I have over 70 meg. There is no way I'm going to bother.
 
I CAN'T GET QUICKTIME 6 PREVIEW TO PLAY

Hi folks,

Okay, I'm still really new to this.

I downloaded the Quicktime 6 Public Preview and installed it, but the only thing that happens is a new looking Quicktime window with a link back to the initial Quicktime 6 Public Preview page appears.

What am I missing?

I'm running OS X 10.1.4


any help?

thanks.
 
Re: details?

Originally posted by Wry Cooter

What did TiMaclover mean by "I am happy to see the eMac is not open too all markets"? Does its release to "everyone else" mean they did not receive enough educational sales? T
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i'm almost certain it was a typo meant to be "the emac is noW open to all markets"....


as for the audio and ipod.

it will require an ipod software update, that should be it.

no reason hardware would be required. after all, no one had to get a particular new piece of hardware for qt 6..
 
WHERE'S MPEG-2!!!

At the age of QT4, Apple promissed MPEG-2 decoding with Quicktime 5. Yet when it was released there was absolutely no MPEG-2 decoding through Quicktime, absolutely no word from Apple in respect, and most articles in the knowledge base featuring that promise vanished. Quite lame for Apple, trying to put that in a hole and cover it with some dirt and hope no one remembered that.

BUT, hey, after a while Quicktime 6 was on the works and it really would support MPEG-2 decoding this time (along with MPEG-1 -how smart-, and MPEG-4), really. Oops, preview release is out and no MPEG-2 decoding from Quicktime and no word about it in QT6PR's web page.

Crappy Apple...


As for DivX playback, I read that one of QT6 betas came with ffmpeg.component instead of what is included with QT6 which is QuickTimeMPEG4.component, and that with it you could playback DivX video 4 or 5, but NOT 3 (which is what the majority of films aout there are encoded with), as long as no other conflicting decoder, such as 3ivx D4 PR1 Decoder OSX, was installed. Still, the bug handling MP3 inside avis persisted in that beta (still is?) so you still needed DivX doctor to watch them properly.
You might want to give a try to MPlayerOSX, a port of a linux player which will let you play avis with DivX & MP3 without any need of doctoring or conversion. However it is somewhat buggy and will not let you, for example, playing non-fullscreen. Search for it at http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/
 
free?

It says on Apple's site that you can use your QT5 Pro key in the preview version of QT6 but when the final version is released you'll have to get a new key. I just bought QT5 Pro recently. Do you think they'll make us pay again? That would really blow.
 
Re: Re: QT Key does work for 6

Originally posted by Wry Cooter

But you should take care to write it down before you install the preview, because I imagine the preview install could easily overwrite it, then you wouldn't know what your key was, and would have to buy another one sooner than the official qt6 release.
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From www.apple.com QT 6 FAQ:
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Will my QuickTime 5 Pro key work in this Public Preview?

Yes. QuickTime 6 Public Preview will automatically recognize your QuickTime 5 Pro key during installation. However, you should write it down prior to installation for safekeeping.

Will my QuickTime 5 Pro key work in the final release of QuickTime 6?

Because QuickTime 6 will include royalty-bearing technologies, a new QuickTime Pro key will be required to unlock pro functionality in the final release.
 
Originally posted by blakespot
While I love the design of the new iMac, the eMac is a far more practical machine. That 17" aperture-grille CRT really is a better place to be than the 15" LCD.


blakespot
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why do you say that?
 
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