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I do agree that this could happen with any network provider, so when the iPhone finally is available on Verizon or whoever, the problems won't just go away.
 
If this was a breach of ATT cellular network then wouldn't the iphone be vulnerable to. Don't both devices execute protocols the same on the 3G network and both use SIM ID's as well.

What about the security risk to the millions of people with iphones. I mean if I am not mistaken ICC-ID are also embedded in scripts when people post pictures from their iphones onto web applications like Flickr and even when the post messages through Internet browsers. Like the messages you see, "This message posted from my iphone." Wouldn't these same scripts that the security company used to fetch these emails addresses, be used if they guessed ICC-ID from iphone users.

I know it's apparently a mute point now, since the breach has been fixed, but...

I believe you mean it is a moot point.

Sorry, but it is a pet peeve of mine.
 
Ironic

People willingly upload their pictures, movies, personal info (age, b-day), interests, hobbies, friends names, etc on their Facebook Page for the whole world to see.....yet when this happens, "hey!...that was my personal info!".
 
People willingly upload their pictures, movies, personal info (age, b-day), interests, hobbies, friends names, etc on their Facebook Page for the whole world to see.....yet when this happens, "hey!...that was my personal info!".

It's the difference between voluntary actions and involuntary ones.
 
Apple really selling 8x more non-3G iPads?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this article (and others) implies that the 114,000 represents 100% of ALL 3G iPad people. If that is correct, we can deduce that as of a few weeks ago when Apple claimed their 1 millionth sale of iPads in the USA, that 886,000 were NOT 3G (1,000,000 minus 114,000).

So either Apple is selling roughly 8x more non-3G units in the USA, or maybe I would tend think that Apple isn't selling as many iPads as they claim.

I really would have pegged the percentage of sales at about 50/50...not 86/14. Granted WIFI is pretty abundant these days...but so is ATT's 3g. On the flip side (the ATT side), if Apple/ATT has only sold 15% of all iPad sales on the ATT network (114,000) out of 1million, ATT should be pretty unhappy about that percentage...time to lower the rates Mr. ATT?

Anyone else agree or maybe have more information?

-Eric
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this article (and others) implies that the 114,000 represents 100% of ALL 3G iPad people. If that is correct, we can deduce that as of a few weeks ago when Apple claimed their 1 millionth sale of iPads in the USA, that 886,000 were NOT 3G (1,000,000 minus 114,000).

So either Apple is selling roughly 8x more non-3G units in the USA, or maybe I would tend think that Apple isn't selling as many iPads as they claim.

I really would have pegged the percentage of sales at about 50/50...not 86/14. Granted WIFI is pretty abundant these days...but so is ATT's 3g. On the flip side (the ATT side), if Apple/ATT has only sold 15% of all iPad sales on the ATT network (114,000) out of 1million, ATT should be pretty unhappy about that percentage...time to lower the rates Mr. ATT?

Anyone else agree or maybe have more information?

-Eric

If they where not activated I don't think they could be effected
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this article (and others) implies that the 114,000 represents 100% of ALL 3G iPad people. If that is correct, we can deduce that as of a few weeks ago when Apple claimed their 1 millionth sale of iPads in the USA, that 886,000 were NOT 3G (1,000,000 minus 114,000).

So either Apple is selling roughly 8x more non-3G units in the USA, or maybe I would tend think that Apple isn't selling as many iPads as they claim.

I really would have pegged the percentage of sales at about 50/50...not 86/14. Granted WIFI is pretty abundant these days...but so is ATT's 3g. On the flip side (the ATT side), if Apple/ATT has only sold 15% of all iPad sales on the ATT network (114,000) out of 1million, ATT should be pretty unhappy about that percentage...time to lower the rates Mr. ATT?

Anyone else agree or maybe have more information?

-Eric

Did you read the article?

They were able to come up with a script to guess at IMEI numbers and get email addresses.

Nothing anywhere said they were able to get all iPad 3G user email addresses with this.
 
You are not helping yourself by continuing this.
He is in fact quite right:
You're right. The appeal of the device itself has nothing to do with it. How could anyone point out the major holes in your shortsighted explanation? The nerve!
If you've been paying attention to the Apple/AT&T relationship through the eyes of their customers at all over the past three years it should be quite obvious that the iPhone is succeeding despite AT&T rather than because of it.

And he is wrong:
Yeah, let's see...
Troll: "Hey Steve...how's that AT&T exclusivity deal working out for ya?"
Me: Well, considering the iPhone has been a home-run success and has significantly impacted the company positively from a financial standpoint, it seems to be working out just fine.
Now you can call that anecdotal all you like, but it's also a simple statement of the facts on the ground. Troll asked a loaded (stupid) question, troll got his answer. Game over.
 
erm... probably not...

AT&T's security hole was promptly closed before wide spread news of this came out. Chill out folks. It was only e-mail addresses which are easily obtained by the usual crawlers and are always subject to spammers on the windows boxes. There's not much people can do with sim codes only that AT&T doesn't already have covered - for years. Any shenanigans are easily fixable at provisioning and probably has already been done. The likelihood of a 100000 user accounts being hacked is nil. You're getting spam anyway because, lets face it - most of you are surfing porn. This is a non-story. But hey this is Macrumors and any opportunity to dis Apple is fair game.
 
Did you read the article?

They were able to come up with a script to guess at IMEI numbers and get email addresses.

Nothing anywhere said they were able to get all iPad 3G user email addresses with this.

And how did they guess that exactly 114 000 imei's were compromised and not all as you suggest? It's valid point that only activated ipad's were included in this number, but why would you buy a 3g Ipad and not activate it? So that number is probably very small.
 
HEADLINE: At&t leave iPads open to hackers

How's that for a catchy headline?

Cease and desist e-mails to AT&T CEO anyone?
Winner for BEST THREAD POST

I would say it's a pretty good bet that AT&T is in the shithouse with Apple after this fiasco.

Exclusivity will end this year, I am certain of it.
Notice all his Steveness (peace be upon him) said about At&t is there 'generosity to promote all customers who would be eligible for upgrades in 2010, to be okay by launch'.

At&t is losing it's iPhone bling in the U.S. this is just their last play to hook the early iPhone 4 adopters.

THINK ABOUT IT? Why would big blue be so generous to those iPhone users that send all these annoying emails to their CEO... They want in your pant's/wallet for another 2 years. I'm going to wait myself or at least pay in full so I can switch as soon as Apple pulls the trigger.
 
The ATT Embarrassment

The security breach is lame, but I've already stopped buying Apple products that depend on ATT. The iphone in NYC is terrible. The iphone4 would probably push me right over the edge. The ipad looks great, but why bother? Apple and ATT need to scale down all their claims and charge prices for the experience and service that they actually deliver.
 
Associated Press has picked up the story...

Gawker's Headline: Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed

AP's Headline: AT&T security hole exposes iPad users' e-mails

You tell me if there is any axe-grinding going on over at Gawker. :D

BTW, the AP story also said: "An Apple representative deferred requests for comment to AT&T."
 
The security breach is lame, but I've already stopped buying Apple products that depend on ATT. The iphone in NYC is terrible. The iphone4 would probably push me right over the edge. The ipad looks great, but why bother? Apple and ATT need to scale down all their claims and charge prices for the experience and service that they actually deliver.

AT&T is nowhere near my iPad. The Wi-Fi model rocks.
 
Close enough.Substantially the same.

I would answer"pretty good,but could be better.But considering that EVERYONE turned us down except ATT we agreed to an exclusivity period,and a deal's a deal.But take heart,it's not forever."

Do you have a source for this claim?
 
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