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iPhone SE (2016) Email Tim Cook about the iPhone SE
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This is a dishonest comparison you posted. What's relevant is dimensions, which are:
- iPhone SE - 123.8 x 58.6 x 7.6 mm (4.87 x 2.31 x 0.30 in), 113g (3.99 oz)
- iPhone 7 - 138.3 x 67.1 x 7.1 mm (5.44 x 2.64 x 0.28 in) and 138 g (4.87 oz)
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You mean, like all the emails asking about when the Mini update will occur?
I said what I said if you don’t agree it doesn’t matter haha. Like I’ll say again no one wants an SE I’m not speaking for myself, I’m speaking for the majority of people who opt for an iPhone 6, 7 or 8. I’m sorry that want a classic phone again..
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Either way peoples hands aren’t tiny to want a screen the size of one of their fingers.
So you're sure people opt for a 7 or 8 solely because they want that size? Not maybe because they want a phone to last more than 3 years and/or a more powerful phone than the 6s/SE?
Do purple iPhones not sell because people don't want them, or because Apple doesn't make them?
People can only buy what they have to choose from...
Tim Cook does not care unless it's more profits for Apple or furthers his political lobbyist causes.
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Never say never. Apple had a Sam Sung.
Yep, it’s the chicken or the egg debate. In any case the truth is probably much more complicated than we know. If demand was the ONLY major factor, then yes Apple discontinuing it had to mean there was no demand for the SE. But we know and have seen that for Apple, demand isn’t as important as it is to other companies. There are other factors they consider just as if not more heavily. And probably many more factors than we realize.
No one is saying the majority wants SE sized phones. But beyond that it’s impossible to tell how large or small that group is.
Dude, seriously, listen to yourself. Nobody is forcing you to go back to a small phone. What the people in this thread and others are emphasizing is that we prefer smaller phones. For you to say that "no one wants an SE" and that you're not speaking for yourself is ludicrous. You must be suffering from some type of bigger-is-better insecurity. Why else would you argue your case in a thread where the discussion revolves specifically around a small iPhone?
Dropping the SE off Apple's available offerings for 3 months before the holidays is going to give them a lot of information about what people are willing to do in its absence.
At some point I assume they'll merge the lines anyway, only difference at this point is screen size and the earpiece.A 7”+ iPhone sounds like an iPad with cellular.
It's all about sales. It cost millions to create the HomePod, and how many of those have they sold?
If sales for the new models don't meet expectations and Apple sees a market need for a less expensive / smaller phone, I wouldn't be surprised to see an invitation go out to press around March for a new SE.
Nice analogy. I feel the same way about Shenmue II.
The SE is the perfect phone for those of us who don’t stare into a phone screen 85% of their time...
Just bought an SE 1 hour ago. My apple store has a bunch in stock. I'm downgrading and the only reason is that i don't want a phone. I use the watch for everything I need except I often use notes app for professional use. and app for stock trading. I workout and run daily and I'll drop that heavy X on the track. the SE slips into pocket like my keys.
Lets face it, almost everyone is getting big phones to get lost in social media because their reality sucks. I get satisfaction from personal accomplishment. I keep asking people with iphone X what they do on the phone and they mostly use it to blow time and procrastinate. This is self-sabotage. I'm young but i refuse to subscribe to this zombie epidemic.
Lets face it, almost everyone is getting big phones to get lost in social media because their reality sucks. I get satisfaction from personal accomplishment. I keep asking people with iphone X what they do on the phone and they mostly use it to blow time and procrastinate. This is self-sabotage. I'm young but i refuse to subscribe to this zombie epidemic.
no. the only social media i use is instagram and even then i don't go on it much.
SE size phone makes no sense.
Omg! Bingo!
People are absolutely addicted to social media more than they are to cocaine. Feeling the need to constantly send beautiful high res photos to their coworkers or family or friends ***is*** a form of social media. Most people who are addicted to various forms of social media deny it.
Not to mention people with big phones look ridiculous. Reminds me of tourists taking photos with their iPads.
Yes the entire world was INSANE using small smartphones for the 15 years before phablets came around.
Nothing I regularly use my SE for is better on a phablet. I tried one for 3 months. To me, all it was was a clumsy bulky version of my SE. When I want a big screen I use an iPad or a computer or a tv.
As i was driving to get the phone, my neighbor, luggage in one hand and giant phone in another hand, dropped the phone on the pavement while trying to get an Uber. Its a balancing act doing things in a hurry one-handed.
Unfortunately, that is slowly changing due to today’s space-wasting white-space-heavy website and app design fads. Pages rarely fit well on an SE screen so you are always having to scroll just to see the basic info.
They have one phone slightly larger but nowhere near the SE’s features and performance.. If Apple really doesn’t plan on updating or replacing it, people will either have to use existing SE’s until they aren’t supported anymore or stop working. I’ve always thought if nothing comes out in March 2019 to update or replace the SE then it’s probably never going to be.. There is the odd fact that if Apple intended to update it they would of continued to sell the SE until the new one came out so it doesn’t look good for SE fans for multiple reasons
I saw a lady at the supermarket with a big ass phablet. She was pushing the cart with one hand and whirling her phablet around with the other. I thought she was going to hit somebody with it, I don't know what the hell she was trying to do. Maybe cast a spell or something?
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I think they might try a version of the Xs, but smaller. That is NOT what I want to buy. I want another phone with the SE design with updated internals. I do NOT like the X design at all. The notch is hideous and distracting, and the phone itself is like a bar of slippery soap with no way to get a good grip on it like you can with the sides of the SE.
I hope that I am wrong, but I fear Apple will try to push the Face ID, X design crap on all of us. If that's the case then I'm holding onto my SE phones (one in use and one as a backup) for dear life. I will NEVER own a phone with a damn notch. EVER.
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Ditto. My 8 Plus is a great device, but it's a pain in the ass to use with one hand. Even with two it's still a chunkster to hold onto and it weighs a lot. My SE is light as a feather and easily used with one hand. The difference is night and day.
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He is clueless and just mouthing generalities. He speaks for no one but himself. Plenty of people want an updated iPhone SE. The phone sold quite well, and had a solid market niche with people who want a phone not a phablet.
I sent 25 e-mails to Tim Cook asking to bring back the iPhone SE.
If just 1% of the country follows my lead and sends 25 e-mails commanding Cook to bring back the SE, that would be:
325 million (population of the USA) / 1 (1% of the population) = 3.25. 3.25 * 25 (emails sent per person) = 81.25. 81.25 million e-mails sent to Tim Cook would give him no other option than to bring back the dominant iPhone SE.
If just 1% of the country follows my lead and sends 25 e-mails commanding Cook to bring back the SE, that would be:
325 million (population of the USA) / 1 (1% of the population) = 3.25. 3.25 * 25 (emails sent per person) = 81.25. 81.25 million e-mails sent to Tim Cook would give him no other option than to bring back the dominant iPhone SE.
I haven’t run into too much of that myself. My sites and apps are pretty good on SE. I’m not a developer but I’d think sites should format to any screen size. iPod Touch is still being sold so hopefully devs will have to keep supporting that size.
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Yeah the outlook is pretty glum.
Oddly enough, I live in a fairly populated city and I can honestly say I have never seen an iPhone SE in public, this is coming from someone who actually did own one. But even from my own anecdotal experience , it likely isn’t the first choice phone for everyone, simply because Apple never really marketed the SE, the 4 inch iPhone is not and its not a predominant smart phone in today’s market.
The consumer sees exactly what Apple markets, which is usually their latest phones, I think the iPhone SE is a safe alternative for those who are not interested in the latest technology/smart phones and simply want a small phone.