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I wondered the same thing about someone committing a crime and being heard by someone monitoring the monitoring devices flooding the market.

There are a lot of unintended consequences that most people are not contemplating. Most people are being swept up in the hoopla of these monitoring devices.

Truthfully, the pair of y’all should be worrying more about your own moral ambiguity.
 
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The problem I see is quite simple to illustrate: Say someone says something that Alexa picks up (considering how easily it gets audio not intended for it) and it could be inflammatory or just an unpopular opinion or even a misinterpreted comment. Look up their address, find the person, and “leak” the audio or identify them as someone with an unpopular opinion on Twitter and get the mobs to destroy their lives and/or career.
 
Truthfully, the pair of y’all should be worrying more about your own moral ambiguity.

No moral ambiguity from me, catching criminals is important.

But what about the person who committed a crime and the case was thrown out because it was argued that the criminal was illegally surveilled. That is just one of dozens, maybe hundreds, of unintended consequences.
 
Unless the information comes from a reputable independent third-party that regularly audits the company's in-house security protocols, I don't believe a word of it. . .

Anybody notice that Facebook has hired as its attorney the woman who wrote the Patriot Act, is an ardent surveillance-hawk and believes in allowing the unrestrained power of the Executive Branch? She sounds perfect for FB, which is as tone-deaf as a corporation can be when it comes to its customers' privacy.
 
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If you, hypothetically, murdered someone, and Amazon employees heard it, - for them to have your address would violate your constitutional rights, I guess? You'd be upset, at the very least.

Well if you're breaking the law and killing people you should be found and be accountable. If people knew that it was impossible to not get caught for crime this will drastically reduce crime, and could actually be good for society. You may have a right to privacy but you don't have to right to kill people. I'm all for severe crimes like this being exposed by tech for safety but on the other hand where do we draw the line? What types of crimes are sever enough to override peoples rights to privacy?

Maybe what you meant is if an employee at Amazon get's your address and then does you and your family harm, or steals your identity etc. that is to me is the more concerning to as a breach of this privacy.

We all brush over TOS's and then get shocked when this stuff comes out. Do these privacy breaches suck? Yeah totally. Do you want to keep your life private? Get off the grid, use a burner phone with no accts, make all your monetary transactions cash and buy a safe.
 
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I wondered the same thing about someone committing a crime and being heard by someone monitoring the monitoring devices flooding the market.

There are a lot of unintended consequences that most people are not contemplating. Most people are being swept up in the hoopla of these monitoring devices.

It would depend on who's this someone.
If it's a government actor, then it would be a breach of the Fourth. If it's a private actor, then it's not. Only the government has to abide by the Fourth.
 
You may have a right to privacy but you don't have to right to kill people.

The right of privacy trumps your not having right to kill somebody, that is the evidentiary element has to be acquired by legit means that do not infringe the suspect's privacy. Fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine.
 
This is a scandal that warrants more attention than it's getting.

It's only a scandal because people were naive enough to not read what they were signing and want to complain now. Just like the people who act like it's a scandal that Facebook sold data on them in exchange for a "free" service.
 
I'm glad I don't have any of these devices and are not planning getting one anytime soon.
If you have a cell phone, a landline, a computer, a car with GPS, wireless speakers, a hair bow dryer (kidding), then you have one of "these" devices!
 
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WAIT A MINUTE Are we saying that the always-on, remotely monitored corporate microphones we put in our homes aren't private? What's next, you're gonna tell me there's some kind of vast surveillance apparatus in place that we all are feeding data at every moment? Yeah right. To do that they'd need everyone to carry a device loaded with cameras, microphones and networking equipment, constantly reporting its location to some kind of world-wide network controlled and monitored by computers that analyze all that data constantly. I find all this hard to believe. Why would anybody build such a system? Just to connect all human activities into a monetizable system and make a few trillion dollars a year? LOL, go put on your tinfoil hat.
 
And yet again another report ‘selectively’ reported on here at Mac Rumors... stop trying to slander Amazon please, it’s embarrassing for the site.
Like the fact you forgot to mention these employees have to sign NDA’s, and in other countries have to follow strict data protection laws.
It’s like trying to make a massive thing over any company with a call centre, because their thousands of employees have access to the customers details and addresses...
Sad really.

And as already stated. Amazon knows my address, how the **** do you think they deliver to you, the courier driver knows my address, the friggin people on their warehouse know my address, and shock horror guess what! APPLE KNOWS MY ADDRESS oh God how bad is that!!!
 
Why I will never use a voice assistant.

Don't think that Apple's boast of anonymity is true. How can you trust them? I'm sure that if they inadvertently heard a bomb plot, they would be able to track the device.
They can’t lie without creating legal jeopardy. Facebook and even Google sometimes just choose not to say anything. Many times they do but know no one is listening.

They way Apple manages what is does is via on device processing and stripping customer data from the data they use before it is sent.
 
amazon already knows my address. how do you think those packages get to me every day?
There are HR employees in my company who know my age, sex, home address, salary etc. Does it mean everyone in the company should have access to that information? The employees working on Alexa aren’t delivering me packages. Why do they need my address?
 
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