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End of push Gmail on iOS
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This is enough to make me seriously consider using iCloud Mail rather than Gmail... push is an absolute must for me.
Thats a good option, but alot of people like myself have been using Gmail for ever and have handed out that email to many people and used it for many services. So it's not feasible to switch to a new email address. But for the more casual users who only give their email to a few friends this is a good option..... Problem is that those users usually dont really need push.
You could just forward you gmail mails to another service such as outlook or icloud. You still get push that way and its fast enough to not notice a difference. I've been forwarding my personal email address to my Blackberry email for years and it works just fine that way.
That can be done through CalDAV-
http://support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=151674
And contacts through CardDAV-
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2753077
Yes I have and it works fine
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Please ask MS to tell you why Contact Pics cannot be added
... only if you link their social profile will it pics from there, no way to add your own ... just like copy/paste was introduced as a new "feature" in Windows Mobile ... LoL
Yes I have and it works fine
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Please ask MS to tell you why Contact Pics cannot be added
How long it took apple for copy and paste ?
I switched to the iOS Gmail app and never looked back.
Can't understand the hate it gets, it gets emails quicker than the web! I love it.
The stock Apple Mail is now dead to me, a barren wasteland for my 4th email address
Well one reason I hate it is that when offline I can't read any emails.
Also when you have several email accounts - not gmail that you also want to see - the one mailbox for all is a great feature.
I switched to the iOS Gmail app and never looked back.
Can't understand the hate it gets, it gets emails quicker than the web! I love it.
The stock Apple Mail is now dead to me, a barren wasteland for my 4th email address
Do you have an issue with the notifications not clearing from the lock screen when you read a message on another device?
Doesn't make much of a difference to me, I'm certainly no power uesr on email
Very occasionally, yes.
Doesn't make much of a difference to me, I'm certainly no power uesr on email
Very occasionally, yes.
So you mean most of the time it works and does go away or that it just occasionally bothers you?
For me the notifications never clear unless I unlock the phone.
Google's ActiveSync/GoogleSync implementation had several known problems and limitations over the years. If you can do without the push email notifications, Google's new CardDAV and CalDAV contact and calendar syncing (+IMAP mail) are actually better than GoogleSync.
It is a fact that Active Sync uses more battery than push with the Gmail app. Some may notice it more, some less, depending on how good network coverage is in your area.
The reason is that push with the Gmail app works through the persistent connection that every iPhone keeps open to Apple servers for regular push messages. This one connection is shared by all apps that have push features (e.g. WhatsApp, Facebook, etc).
Active Sync needs to open a separate connection to Google servers, only for email push.
This means that if you enable Active Sync, the phone has to keep 2 connections open instead of 1. Especially in areas of bad coverage, or when going from no coverage to good coverage, this may have a noticeable battery impact.
It's amazing that in 2013 these guys still haven't figured out one of the most important tasks on a smartphone which is being connected to email.
Push keeps us connected, most of us want it
Now we face an uncertain future with gmail and push
We are forced to try the gmail app.
- No offline reading,
- No sending from other apps (so you have to set up a mail.app account too)
- Slow to switch between accounts sometimes.
- Badge notifications are broken,
- Text is hard to read in some emails, limited zoom ability.
- Integration with 3rd party apps and attachments is a little limited.
Mail.app
- No sent message threading
- Clunky search feature (if you are used to gmails extensive options)
- When you buy a new iphone/ipad you will loose push
- New contacts aren't automatically available in gmail web after you reply to a new recipient. (Like they are if you use the gmail app).
Maybe there is some way to fudge the contacts sync, i havent really thought about it yet.
I always used to use the mail.app but since the activesync closure whats the point in building my workflow around something that will eventually be unavailable. I used to call for Apple to integrate sent message threading but whats the point now.
It seems either solution has weaknesses. But for now i will just have to stick with the gmail app. Reluctantly.
It means i use gmail web and safari notifications on my desktop. Yet the desktop mail app is pretty nice. I just don't like having 2 different systems for the same thing between devices.
Push keeps us connected, most of us want it
Now we face an uncertain future with gmail and push
We are forced to try the gmail app.
- No offline reading,
- No sending from other apps (so you have to set up a mail.app account too)
- Slow to switch between accounts sometimes.
- Badge notifications are broken,
- Text is hard to read in some emails, limited zoom ability.
- Integration with 3rd party apps and attachments is a little limited.
Mail.app
- No sent message threading
- Clunky search feature (if you are used to gmails extensive options)
- When you buy a new iphone/ipad you will loose push
- New contacts aren't automatically available in gmail web after you reply to a new recipient. (Like they are if you use the gmail app).
Maybe there is some way to fudge the contacts sync, i havent really thought about it yet.
I always used to use the mail.app but since the activesync closure whats the point in building my workflow around something that will eventually be unavailable. I used to call for Apple to integrate sent message threading but whats the point now.
It seems either solution has weaknesses. But for now i will just have to stick with the gmail app. Reluctantly.
It means i use gmail web and safari notifications on my desktop. Yet the desktop mail app is pretty nice. I just don't like having 2 different systems for the same thing between devices.
The point really is that Microsoft HAD solved it, and that's why there's no true competitor to Exchange ActiveSync.
Unfortunately, as a commercial product, it has licensing fees for both the device maker and the email service provider.
I don't know if anyone has some this, but I restored my phone as new and was able to keep my sync calendar and contacts. Push email is still working.
Gmail was a stupid trend I've used it and it's a horrible experience
Outlook (new hotmail) is a great alternative and it is better (yes microsoft did a good job)
Outlook (new hotmail) is a great alternative and it is better (yes microsoft did a good job)