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Just out of interest, if the HB devs are using these settings for ATV encodes, why isn't this the default ATV preset? Is it too slow, too big files etc.?

Simple, because its slow, and depending on your source, can cause issues sometimes streaming (denoise when used with crf can drop bitrates alot on a noisy source, like an old grainy movie which can cause crf to bloat bitrates and file sizes quite a bit) . Its the same reason we chose single pass with the appleTV preset vs. 2 pass abr, tradeoff quality for time. Its a good tradeoff for 95% of the people using it. They will never see the difference or if they do, its not worth the extra encoding time.

The Built In HandBrake Preset is a click and encode solution. Exceptional quality at a decent encoding speed and reasonable file sizes. It streams well in almost all circumstances and more importantly is predictable with all types of sources. Plus it uses CAVLC which fits the AppleTV's published specifications. The settings I outline above use CABAC which is not officially endorsed by Apple for the AppleTV. So we do not ship a built in preset with CABAC. However believe me when I tell you that when properly setup, CABAC encodes work just fine on the AppleTV. I have done and watched hundreds of them since the ATV was introduced.

Always remember that the Built In Handbrake presets targeted at devices are a compromise. Often times taking storage space of the targeted device into account (hence the low bitrate on the iPhone preset which has dismal storage capacity) , encoding speed, and quality tradeoffs. Ultimately there is no "correct" setting. Each person has to determine whats most important to them. The presets are just a general starting point. Most people never go past the presets. But if you do, the options are almost limitless. The flip side to that is you can also totally screw up device compatibility pretty easily. :)
 
I'm not sure I saw if you did this already, have you done a comparison of a purchased/rented movie from Apple and compared it to a DVD of yours?

Doesn't solve your encoding problem, but might help verify the saturation colors truly is in your encoding process and not something else. Assuming that the Apple encoded stuff even looks closer to what you expected.
 
I've decided on a simple solution. There are many DVD's on my shelf I haven't watched in years so I'm going to digitize most of my DVD's leaving the ones I watch more regularly on the shelf. So it's a compromise but one I can live with.

watanabe said:
I'm not sure I saw if you did this already, have you done a comparison of a purchased/rented movie from Apple and compared it to a DVD of yours?

I haven't yet but doing a comparison from the original DVD to the digitized version is good enough for me. The version on iTunes is probably digitized from a master source and not a DVD like I'm doing so the quality will probably be a bit better. But then I don't want to re-buy movies or shows I already own.
 
I've decided on a simple solution. There are many DVD's on my shelf I haven't watched in years so I'm going to digitize most of my DVD's leaving the ones I watch more regularly on the shelf. So it's a compromise but one I can live with.



I haven't yet but doing a comparison from the original DVD to the digitized version is good enough for me. The version on iTunes is probably digitized from a master source and not a DVD like I'm doing so the quality will probably be a bit better. But then I don't want to re-buy movies or shows I already own.

The point of comparing to an iTunes download or SD trailer would be to check the calibration of your ATV input to make sure it matches what you're getting out of your DVD player. Do the SD trailers look good to you on ATV? I find I need to increase my color saturation and sharpness with ATV SD content.
 
The point of comparing to an iTunes download or SD trailer would be to check the calibration of your ATV input to make sure it matches what you're getting out of your DVD player. Do the SD trailers look good to you on ATV? I find I need to increase my color saturation and sharpness with ATV SD content.

Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make, that maybe your output from the ATV is contributing to the visual quality, thanks.

I figured matching a download to a owned DVD would be best, excluding the point made that the Apple encode is probably from a better source. But your right, even using something like a trailer may suffice, and be cheaper!
 
Hey all

I've always used DVD2POD it's easy and it works fine as far as im concerned. I just hit "convert" and it puts an mp4 on my desktop.
 
I've always used DVD2POD it's easy and it works fine as far as im concerned. I just hit "convert" and it puts an mp4 on my desktop.

You bumped a nearly year old thread to flog a crappy convertor?

As the thread is here..

dynaflash, have your advanced option string settings changed since you posted in this thread. Tried looking in the Handbrake forum thread, but a little confusing.
 
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