Endnote like program for leopard

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by ghostchild, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. ghostchild macrumors 6502


    Jun 17, 2007
    hey guys, I was just wondering if there were any programs like Endnotes for Leopard, I now Endnotes has a Mac version, but its a resource hog and old. Any suggestions?
  2. shwc macrumors regular

    Jul 2, 2005
  3. ghostchild thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 17, 2007
  4. baboyako macrumors newbie

    Jan 11, 2008
  5. ghostchild thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 17, 2007
    These are all as good or better than endnote I presume?
  6. scretico macrumors newbie

    Jul 26, 2006
    Try Bibdesk (http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/).
    It's a free, open-source reference manager based on bibtex, which is the standard bibliography format used in LaTeX. BibDesk is simply amazing, I find it more functional and prettier than Endnote. You can even search for references from within the program, and import them in BibDesk with a single clic.
  7. cricketbird macrumors member

    Feb 17, 2008

    As someone mentioned, Zotero is an excellent, free reference manager. It works just like your iTunes library (with a main library, and the ability to have various lists (like playlists), tags, etc.), it has MS Word and OpenOffice plug ins, cite-while-you write, etc. Best of all, it seamlessly allows you to import references from web searches, keep notes, link to files, take screen snapshots, etc.

    Currently, it's biggest drawback is that you can't (without some legwork) sync your library to a server so you can access the library from any computer. However, they are planning on having that feature in the next version, due sometime this year.

    Zotero has a very active development community that quickly responds to feature requests and answers user questions.
  8. ghostchild thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 17, 2007
    The only problem is I'm working on Safari if I zotero I have to use firefox haha.
  9. nanoboy macrumors member

    Jan 30, 2008
    Edinburgh, United Kingdom
    Glad to have found this thread from a Google search.

    I'm in the middle of writing a journal paper needing academic referencing. I've used Zotero before, had good experience when I wrote my last paper, but this time round I found it's not supporting the new Web of Knowledge database site, so it's not much use to me now.

    Endnote would have been good if it could work with Pages. I haven't touched MS Word since iWork'08 :) Pages is so much nicer and enjoyable to write in. I miss the Cite While You Write though with Endnote + Word.

    Gonna give BibDesk a try as posted above. Thanks guys!
  10. klaxamazoo macrumors 6502

    Sep 8, 2006

    I use papers to catalog my literature. Great integration with google scholar and web of science. If you are at a university or corporation with an e-zproxy (which is most) then it is a one stop solution for literature searches, pdf storage and it has drag-n-drop citation integration with word.

    I personally love papers.
  11. stlethal macrumors newbie

    Feb 1, 2008
    Anyone else?

    I've followed this thread and considered all the options, but am not too happy yet. Bookends is expensive (just like Endnote) and the user interface of BibDesk actually looked fantastic! So I've tried using it, but just can't figure out how to cite in Word... I assume it only works to cite in TeXShop (or others) but that program seems like a lot of work and I can't export to other Word users, correct?

    Any comment would be greatly appreciated, esp other alternatives!!
  12. yeroen macrumors 6502a


    Mar 8, 2007
    Cambridge, MA
  13. .adam macrumors regular

    Nov 20, 2007
    Try JabRef.

    It's cross-platform as it runs in Java, can deal with a number of reference-types and, best of all, is free :)

    I used it for my dissertation and was very happy with it.
  14. ghostchild thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 17, 2007
    But do any of these work seamlessly with word? Or is it still copy and paste lke endnote?
  15. baboyako macrumors newbie

    Jan 11, 2008
  16. shwc macrumors regular

    Jul 2, 2005
    Endnote is STILL copy and paste? Are you serious?

    I am not sure what you mean by tight integration...
    Bookends is tightly integrated, no copy and paste needed--not for the past 5(?) years anyhow. So is Sente. You drag and drop citations to where you want them. I guess one could argue that drag and drop is technically a copy paste function behind the scenes.

    In Bookends, you can quickly toggle between a formated and an unformatted document, do automatic and manual database searches, automatically download and file pdfs, allow you to add your own notes to the references, etc. Everything a modern bibliography program should do.

    Mellel has even tighter integration with Bookends and Sente as it has a built in mini reference manager, allowing drag and drop of cited references from within Mellel.
  17. ghostchild thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 17, 2007
    Thanks for the better description of bookends, I have it now and just started typing my paper (about Apple :) ). Thanks all!
  18. herr_neumann macrumors 6502


    Mar 27, 2003
    Roseville, Ca
    The newest version of endnote gives me absolutely no problems. With the connect feature I am able to seamlessly dl just about every citation I need. The previous version was not a friend, but this one seems to work great.

  19. Maeish macrumors newbie

    Feb 22, 2008
    Does it work with pages '08? I just got a copy today and it doesn't seem to want to install.
  20. hajime macrumors 601

    Jul 23, 2007
    LaTeX is the best.
  21. alFR macrumors 68020

    Aug 10, 2006
    It's not - there is a cite while you write plugin for Word in Endnote X. Currently it doesn't work with Word 2008 though. Endnote doesn't work with Pages, which is a major pain: I'd sooner use iWork than Office. :(

    If you want Endnote integration with Pages, email Apple and tell them - apparently it's impossible currently because they haven't released any developer tools for integration with Pages.
  22. GarrettB macrumors newbie

    Sep 5, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Here are my experiences after going through an exhaustive trial process

    Mellel does indeed have great integration with BookEnds and Sente. However, its .doc compatibility was the worst of all the word processors I tried. It totally gouged my undergrad thesis whereas other word processors (Nisus Writer Pro and Pages) did the same task flawlessly.

    Sente has a better interface than Bookends, and while perhaps slightly immature it has progressed leaps and bounds. It now has enough functionality for humanities/social science folks, and the new Links feature is fantastic. Also, integration with Pages. Not as tight as Mellel-BookEnds, but for my needs, just fine.

    Also, consider Yep as an academic tool, especially if you dig tag clouds.
  23. klaxamazoo macrumors 6502

    Sep 8, 2006
    I second that. I don't know how I got along without it before. Endnote is just terrible compared to papers.
  24. EOD macrumors newbie

    Aug 16, 2008
    Pros and Cons of Sente vs Bookends for Mac OSX Leopard users

    I believe that the two best programs out there for Leopard OS are Sente and Bookends.

    There's serious discussion needed to help Mac uses find an alternative to Endnotes. The available patches are abysmally bad in remedying bugs. The tech support is recommending that users go back to Word 2004 for Mac rather than struggle with bugs for Word 2008. And upgrades to fix patches cost $100 or more, with endnotes being a seriously expensive software to begin with.

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