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i remember reading a thread here not to long ago where someone lost theirs on a plane. and left it in a pocket.
 
As I said above, this is a rare example of when ignorance of civil law is ok. It does not matter how unfounded the defendant's belief is, only that he genuinely believed it, in law. Of course, the more crazy it is the harder it is to persuade a jury.

If he had found the iPad in a park at midnight this defence would be quite easy, as it is it would be interesting, but still worth exploring.

Talking about waste bins, one case held that items in your bin outside have not been abandoned. A bin man could be convicted of theft from a bin on his rounds!



It isn't a criminal case. We did it in land law, but it is used as reference in criminal cases. It is all about a bracelet in an airport waiting room.

6:15? Has Oxford moved?! :D

Hmm, I wish this internet was better. It keeps cutting off, or pages won't load :/ I might switch to 3G.

From a quick wiki page, I'd side with the judge. I'd say that they should return it to the finder, if the owner is not found. This is what happens in the US, I believe, well in California anyway.

I'm in California at the moment, well, Los Angeles :)
 
Today, I found a half empty cup of coffee. Should I attempt to return it to the original owner? He may of accidentally left it on the table while heading to work...
 
Today, I found a half empty cup of coffee. Should I attempt to return it to the original owner? He may of accidentally left it on the table while heading to work...

If you really wanted to.

It's not as tangible or expensive as an iPad though.
 
If I was charged for this I would certainly raise s.2(1)(a). It is a subjective test, the jury must decide what the defendant thought. Not what they, the jury, thinks. If the defendant genuinely believes he has the right to take it, it doesn't matter how silly that is, he is not guilty. If he believes "finders keepers" is law (which in this case it seems he may), and he can persuade a jury that is what he thought, that is all he needs to do. He would not be dishonest in the eyes of the law.

An item may also belong to the airline crew, but that is not automatic. They must have shown an intention to control items on the plane, something like signs saying where to take lost property or regular checks. This would probably be satisfied, but it doesn't change the original point that it is what the defendant thought that would be key here.

This happens all the time, whenever you get too much change in a shop you are guilty of theft when you realise later and keep it, unless this dishonesty point kicks in. Which means I have to return it, as I know I have no right in law to keep it!

Like I said, I'm not saying this isn't a theft under UK law. However, there are some points a defendant could realistically raise to avoid conviction, so to say as you did that "actually, it is theft in the UK" is not necessarily true.

Ghosh test, blah blah.... subjective, then objective...... I remember the LL.B :) I also remember getting a 2:1 in it. I was robbed, should have been a first.
 
You know, usually I'm not somebody who goes around telling people what's right and wrong, but what you did was theft. How would you have liked it if that had been yours that somebody else had "taken", claiming it was their own? You don't even know who it belonged to. It could've had really important information on there and you decided you would just steal it. I think that was an awful thing to do. In fact, it's an example of why we should all put a passcode lock on our iPads to stop people like you from stealing them.
And the worst thing is, you already have an iPad. You didn't need two. That could have been somebody's most prized possession, it could have belonged to a child who's now lost it and probably won't get it back.
It wasnt a very wise thing to do in my opinion. But you know it's not too late to take it back and do the right thing
 
This story has to be fake. I can't imagine anyone is as classless as this guy to go onto a MacRumors forum of all places. Maybe on his Twitter or Facebook. But not MacRumors where he knows he'd get flamed and insulted.

He's just tryin' to stir stuff up. Nothing to see here.

Most likely thing is that he's just a bit stupid ;)
 
He's just started a thread and left, hasnt bothered adding anything to the thread.

This forum needs more moderators, delete this thread asap.
 
If I was the person loosing the iPad2, I already have enough information from you to call the Airline and track the flight attendant who approached you, find out your seat number, and if it matched mine, get the police involved.

The right thing for you to do is to contact the posters claiming to have lost their iPad2, and ask them to PM you their serial numbers, so you could identify the person to return his/her property.

Or, just wait until you get caught, and spend many lonely days and lonely nights in jail, with nothing to enjoy, not even a notepad and a pen. Well, your cellmate will want to do weird things to you, but eventually you may get used to it.
 
Eh, if there was personal information that you could find the owner that would be the best thing to do!
 
Hopefully the guy is a UFC fighter, uses "Find My Ipad", thinks you stole it, and turns your face into hamburger.
 
lol@ people flaming. if it was you i guarantee you would have been hauling ass out of that airplane lmfao
 
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