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Entire Mac Lineup Now Starts With at Least 16GB RAM, Ending 8GB Era
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apple intelligence will work with the current 8gb M1 chips.
No PC company has moved to 32gb standard other than in gaming laptops.
Adding RAM did not, but the higher configs was also pushed down by the same amount. The price cut is for everyone. (Based on the Air price drop, the shakeup in configs of M4 makes it hard to compare)
Let's be clear--the problem was never Apple offering 8GB, it was fine for a sizable market (otherwise Apple wouldn't have sold as many devices as they did and had such high customer satisfaction rates) and is probably still fine for those people if they don't want to use AI--and what do people care what config others have? The real issue behind the smoke is people simply want to pay less/get more--a complaint as old as time that will continue on forever.
The people who could get by on 8GB probably do so little they could have gotten by on an iPad instead.
It's even $1,129 refurb straight from Apple.
Refurbished 13-inch MacBook Air Apple M3 Chip with 8âCore CPU and 10âCore GPU - Space Gray
Originally released March 2024|13.6-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS technology;¹|2560-by-1664 native resolution at 224 pixels per inch|16GB unified memory|512GB SSD²|Touch ID|1080p FaceTime HD camera|Two Thunderbolt/ USB 4 ports
www.apple.com
Please show me how to install Roon on my iPad.
Also, a 13” iPad with a keyboard is an upgrade, price wise.
This post is exactly the kind of arrogant gatekeeping that makes me push back on all the “8GB is garbage” crap.
Apple Intelligence is fully supported on 8GB M1 Macs, 8GB iPhone 15 Pro and 8GB iPhone 16s. It will be a few years before more than 8GB is needed for AI.
or you can just click the 16GB option instead of forcing all of those users to give up their Mac apps and relearn how to do their daily work on an iPad
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Sure if you want to wear out your SSD because it's swapping 100% of the time. Apple should not let it run at all, they should restrict it to 16+ GB machines.
8GB is already not enough, even though it technically works. Add in local AI models, and no... I beg to differ. 8GB is a no-go for using Apple Intelligence. If you could hear your SSD swap it would be screaming in pain. This is why Apple finally has moved to 16gb, they know 8GB is not enough. RIP all the 8GB M1 Macs running Sequioa.
So, when do you expect Dell and Lenovo to get there?
I do my day job on a base M1 MBA attached to a Dell 27" monitor. It's such a good little computer, even with a measly 8GB RAM. I could never do my job with an iPad. (I have tried, for about 30 minutes.)
You mean the WiFi 7 that isn’t finalized in 2024 should have been included by Apple in your M1 from 2020? Or the WiFi 6E that was adopted in 2021 should have been predicted by Apple a year earlier?
How exactly would they do that?
If it bothers you so much, get a WiFI 6E adapter, though since you should have WiFi 6 already, you won’t gain much.
Since you know so much more than Apple, why haven’t you started a multi-billion dollar computer company instead of posting here?
Still on my m1 macbook air, feel no need to upgrade cause guess what I got the 16GB build. 256 GB disk space albeit outrageous on Apple's side can be manageable with iCloud sync and external drives but there is nothing you can do about the permanent shi*ty RAM situation.
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I type “roon” on my iPad and an app comes up 🤷♂️.
Also calling me arrogant suggests I believe myself to be better than those who use their Mac’s for a light workload which simply isn’t true.
If you can’t have a simple discussion without throwing out loaded accusations such as that then I see no reason to continue this discourse with you.
More and more things being done in the browser doesn’t equate less need for RAM. Many times it is the opposite. Most websites take up just as much RAM as a desktop app, and on top of that you are dragging a whole browser around.
“Your system has ran out of application memory” popups and lagging from a few tabs on Chrome and a Pages document on a 2000 dollar machine is not acceptable. You can never have too much RAM and the computer is always using as much as there is available. A 64GB Mac with nothing open might even idle at 30. It improves day to day performance regardless of your use case.
1. M1 machines are 4 years old at this point. It'll stop receiving updates long before thrashing becomes an issue
2. If they restrict it to 16GB machines, then people would just complain "Apple could totally run it on 8gb machines, they just want you to buy new machines"
3. It's the user's choice.
1. A person who can live with 8GB isn't going to want to run local AI models since they can live off of cloud AI through other means.
Works for millions of people
668TBW on my M1 Mac mini with 512GB. works great.
yep. been saying for a while that the only good thing that came from AI hype is the 16gb base.