LET’S GOOOO !! I hate Fortnite so if it doesn’t come on the App Store then I will be very happy!! 😃
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Epic: Fortnite Offline Worldwide 'Until Apple Unblocks It'
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We are talking about In-App purchases, for which Apple does nothing at all. We are not talking about alternative App stores. In the Apple App Store, for App purchases, they can obviously use their own payment system.
You buy an Apple product knowing going into it what the rules are and how it works. I am perfectly happy and satisfied with having a protected and controlled experience with Apple. It makes it simple, safe and straightforward. If I wanted something else, I'd buy something else. Like an Android. Having used both over the years, no thanks. That's choice.
"We don't want apple to have any revenue to show for the efforts of reviewing our game, hosting it in the store, or serving our game binaries. We want apple to dedicate resources to rapidly review our submissions since we update a lot and as well as resources for answering our phone calls" - Tim Sweeney
He wants apple to lose money to have Fortnite, and to be grateful for the opportunity.
He wants apple to lose money to have Fortnite, and to be grateful for the opportunity.
The news story is specifically about Fortnite, and Epic. Sure developers care, but mainly the ones who are established and already made millions off of iOS, and now want a bigger piece of the pie. Going back to specifically Epic they cry about fairness and still charge game developers to put games in their store. They want to shoot the whale (Apple) hoping to get consumer support, when tech savvy consumers choose Apple because of this systems, while everyday users just want their device to work without additional complications. I just hate hypocrites, especially CEOs that are all talk, and stab consumers in the back. At least Apple is telling you from the beginning what you're buying into.
Serious answer: they’re making truckloads of money from iOS hardware purchases.
That they wouldn’t without their ecosystems of third-party apps.
And conversely where lenders like epic who made millions of dollar be without the iOS App Store. Chicken and egg?
Exactly.
So let Apple decide the fees and commissions in their app store.
And Epic the fees and commissions in their in-app store.
PS: As in everyone is fully entitled to revenue from their respective storefront.
Epic is not entitled to a share of the iPhone’s retail price for every Fortnite player that bought his iPhone to play the game on it.
And vice versa.
Neither is Epic entitled to a share of Apple’s App Store revenue for making a Fortnite player register an Apple App Store Account (and then subsequently buy other apps or music).
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In the eu yes. In the US this is under appeal.
Except in the EU is not a competitors store front, it’s a store front by virtue of regulation.
Epic really isn’t entitled to anything. It’s but for (govt overreach) regulation in the eu that epic can have a store front.
The Epic store for iOS is clearly a (albeit currently small) competitor to Apple’s App Store.
A competition that was enabled and only made possible by prudent (though maybe not perfect) EU regulation.
Potentially disrupting Apple’s anticompetitive revenue stream.
I disagree. This is a giveaway by the eu playing Robin Hood. Competition by govt regulation is not competition.
Pathetic move by Apple. After 12 years, I'm so glad I switched back to Android and no longer have to be controlled by what Apple deems acceptable within its App Store monopoly.
…taking from the Apple that’s acting like the Sheriff of Nottingham.
I like your analogy and think it’s very apt 👍
(…just with a clever reversal of who’s the law and who’s the outlaw)
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That’s voting with your $$$ in action. Buy what suits the consumer the best.
I’ll take that over a bland, soulless corporate bean counter whose greatest ability and achievement are squeezing everyone else (consumers, suppliers, developers) like a lemon.
Any day.
So basically after skimming through all these responses the tweet is working as they expected. People everywhere are blaming Apple for everything other than the US which doesn't seem to be the case. Just reading that tweet, to me it sounded more like we're taking it down everywhere because we can't have it in the US.
Edit: I just saw the other shoe drop. Idiots tied the stores together thinking they could sneak it through. Sounds like a BS move that Sweeney would pull.
Edit: I just saw the other shoe drop. Idiots tied the stores together thinking they could sneak it through. Sounds like a BS move that Sweeney would pull.
And yet there is this: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...lds-most-valuable-brand.2457185/post-33907905
Whether one agrees or not.
Have you played Fortnite? The game is free to play, but it is designed for you to give them money, endlessly.
They couldn't force them to. As Apple could then turn around and get the courts to force every developer to develop for their platform too. It would work both ways.
So, do you believe it’s OK for a developer to leverage Apple’s ecosystem to reach millions of customers with a free app, then handle all in-app-purchases with an external system — to avoid paying Apple for use of their infrastructure to launch, distribute and sustain their app and business?
Given Apple’s market share and monopoly power, yes.
Apple are free to charge non-discriminatory fees for their infrastructure.
👉 Up until a downloaded app is delivered (downloaded) to a customers device.
But the enforced leeching off someone else’s revenue through a kind of (not competitively determined in rate) tax needs to stop. As does their discrimination of digital goods compared to physical goods.
👉 Does Apple have a right to leverage your internet service provider’s infrastructure to reach millions of customers for (basically) free, raking in billions through software purchases and media streaming. And avoid paying ISPs for use of their infrastructure?
Furthermore:
👉 Do you believe the postal service should be able to charge a 30% commission on all goods delivered to (instead of size/weight)
👉 Do you believe your bank should charge a 5% turnover commission on your bank account and payment card? Why should they provide your banking service for (almost) free, when you’re using it to receive a six figure amount of $ in salary/comprnsation every year?
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That’s an unserious answer. Any business run that way would go bankrupt. And any CEO that thought that way would be canned before they drove the business to bankruptcy. Hardware and services are separate businesses and should be run that way: Hardware prices recover hardware costs and generate contribution to profitability; and App Store pricing recovers App Store costs and generate contribution to profitability.
You think Apple would go bankrupt without the app store revenue? That is definitely unserious.
If everything has to have it's costs recovered within it's own business unit, what is covering this. 👇
Apple Is Losing Over $1 Billion per Year on Streaming Service, Has 45 Million Apple TV+ Subscribers (Report)
Apple TV+ is reportedly losing more than $1 billion per year as the company is spending $4.5 billion on content annually.
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