Opposite here. I don't want my data, transactions, history, etc. all tired up with a single entity.
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Epic: Fortnite Offline Worldwide 'Until Apple Unblocks It'
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Opposite here. I don't want my data, transactions, history, etc. all tired up with a single entity.
Exactly, that's how I think ownership is different for each person. And we have a choice now on the market. Making iOS the new Android is robbing that option from me.
Well and indefinite license is largely indistinguishable from ownership.
No different from me selling you an Apple and me renting you these same Apple for a one time fee for ever.
I don’t think Apple has done anything (yet).
It seems Epic thinks it has found a loophole, and it will argue that it shouldn’t have to support two different versions of Fortnite for iOS, one for side loading in the EU and the other for the App Store elsewhere. So this stunt is an illustration of that.
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As a direct answer, no it would not be "expensive" for a company like Apple, given the scale of their resources and the cost to develop a game like Fortnite. However, trying to be clever by "reverse" the point sort of leans toward missing the point.
Apple built and continues to evolve the hardware and platform to support others making the bazillion variations on applications that each, large to niche, market might want. It is the very point of a platform, it exists for things to be built on it. This is not a "chicken or egg" scenario. Platforms exist, then apps, not the other way around. People building platforms do so to enable others to add to it. Epic wants to use a platform they didn't build or help evolve and they want to do it for free. They want to take all of the money that Apple invests in the hardware of their devices, and software of their platforms and, for free, leverage it for their own business use. They are a business, of course they want to not pay and have higher profits. I don't blame them. But I also don't blame Apple for also wanting to make money and charge people for the hardware and software platform that they provide.
Honest question: who seriously enjoys playing Fortnite on a phone??
I get it if a phone is the only thing you can play games on but surely it can’t be an even remotely enjoyable experience to play a shooter on a touch screen?
I know controllers are a thing and there’s even those cool ones that attach to the side of your phone but if you’re that dedicated isn’t it worth investing in a Switch or something?
I get it if a phone is the only thing you can play games on but surely it can’t be an even remotely enjoyable experience to play a shooter on a touch screen?
I know controllers are a thing and there’s even those cool ones that attach to the side of your phone but if you’re that dedicated isn’t it worth investing in a Switch or something?
Actually it would be really cheap to make their own Fortnite. The reason they have not is because it is just not worth the hassle.
Fortnite has so many micro-transactions in-app that it is itself barely legal. There were many stories of kids stealing their parents cards to purchase some “Darth Vader costume” in game. It is same in almost all modern games so Fortnite is not unique, but we should pose a question whether it is worth to have such a bad gaming industry nowadays that tries to squeeze every cent from customers without anything revolutionary and actually good
If the avenue for getting the game is the App Store, and Apple runs the App Store then Apple will be involved. If the app cannot abide by the rules of the App Store then the application will not be published.
By the way, if you actually read the license agreement, you would know that you accepted and agreed to Apple’s involvement.
This is why I got bored with gaming and stopped playing games. Besides gaming is an addiction that they want to ruin the rest of you life with, like a drug. Thankfully I found more interesting things to do than play video games.
lets see
end users pay full price for the phone.
apple does not make content or host content for this game.
apple forces you to use there store and wants 30% of all action while just doing the min hosting that epic can do on their own if they where allowed to.
apple also wants netflix to give them 30% of sub costs when apple has there own steaming services.
BY all means - with all the issues we face in this country and the world - making sure a greedy game developer is free to shake down nine year olds for their allowance really is very important...said with full sarcastic intent...
If you purchase an Apple that came with a license agreement that you will give me 10% of all revenue you earn from labor. Is this a fine purchase?
Agree. We must prevent the greedy companies from shaking down the children playing with their iDevices or consoles.
Don't worry; I live in a jurisdiction where most EULAs commonly found online are not legally incorporated into the purchase or user agreement.
When the Government issues orders, you don't get to ignore them. You follow the law.
Serious question: How does Apple get compensated for use of the App Store infrastructure for developing, reviewing, hosting, discovery (selling), distributing, and maintaining an app if that app is purchased from a separate payment platform?
It’s time for Tim and apple to get slammed on this. Again in the courts and then by their customers If this is the kinds of BS they continue to do I may be trying an android in the near future. Europe gets an open App Store and I do not. A loyal costosmr since the Apple IIe. Apple has been great but they clearly are loosing their way. While we all love the highlight feature of 18.5 🙄. Apple could we possibly install a brain in Siri, someday? Is Apple an art company or an IT company? They are clearly tyrants.
So Tim Sweeny agreed to Apple App Store rules & Terms of use. Then violated those rules. Not just violated but used fraud and deception to violate them. Now Sweeney says he doesn't understand why Apple and Tim Cook won't return his phone calls.
Is this guy serious?
Is this guy serious?