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The EU is not a government.
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Epic Games and Spotify Say Apple's Latest DMA Changes Are 'Illegal' and 'Deliberately Confusing'
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The EU is not a government.
Well, if that is what local devs think, they will be disappointed.
Most companies complaining about App Stores are actually American. The most vocal want also to build mega App Stores themselves.
Either way a lot will probably be disappointed when regulations become clearer in the mind of these companies leaders.
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Nope - never said it is. There is good and bad in both governments. In fact, I think on the whole, the EU does a much better job of looking after its citizens than the US does. I am generally a big fan of the EU!
Just think they're cutting off their nose to spite their face when it comes to the DMA.
Same thing that he did when Apple originally rejected Epic's EU subsidiary earlier this year. Immediately threatened Apple publicly without any consultation or process.Slightly off topic, but it sounds like everyone's second-favorite EU Commissioner has been naughty:
Will the EU Fine the EU Commissioner?
Thierry Breton goes rogue, has Brussels seeing rougespyglass.org
A "specialist" from Hollywood, formerly from Ohio...Slightly off topic, but it sounds like everyone's second-favorite EU Commissioner has been naughty:
Will the EU Fine the EU Commissioner?
Thierry Breton goes rogue, has Brussels seeing rouge
If you think that MG Siegler isn't qualified to share his opinions about tech, then I really don't think we have any more to discuss.
Done engaging with you. I'll leave you with Siegler's bio below, and a link to a list of of the companies he was an early stage investor in. Maybe you've heard of Uber, AirBnB, Swipe, or Square?
But sure, he's just a Hollywood guy who doesn't know anything about tech
And a specialist on the EU...DMA...😏But sure, he's just a Hollywood guy who doesn't know anything about tech
Why would you need to be a specialist on the EU and DMA in order to quote reporting by the Financial Times that has nothing to do with the DMA?
the Financial Times? A US broadsheet? Even though it is now owned by Nikkei, would it be pro-EU, pro-DMA?
It’s just as bad seeing the fake criticism as well. But I got it - lots of cognitive dissonance and a lot of emotion poured into discussing the dma, motives, the eu etc
Do you want to discuss anything other than ad hominem fallacies?
DMA is for people who live in the EU, and for businesses doing business in the EU, not outside it. That business entities could be either European or outside it, but doing business in it.
So? How does that change the fact that Thierry Breton posted a warning letter without the commissions support or approval? Especially since is was about he DSA and not the DMA.
I think he is qualified. It does not mean we have to agree with him.
You seem to disagree to his almost unwritten opinion on the matter we are discussing.
Apple's Deliciously Dripping with Disdain Press Release
Earlier today, I laid out why I thought Apple might end up taunting the EU with any changes they implement to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA) laws set to take effect in March. And after a roughly 30 minute honeymoon period when folks thought Apple may actually be
spyglass.org
Apple Taunting as the EU Approaches, Crowbar in Hand...
Apple Plans New Fees and Restrictions for Downloads Outside App Store Meta, Spotify and other companies are weighing new options for customers as Apple makes changes to comply with new European law The Wall Street Journal ❗Apple has now confirmed such changes, read the update below...
spyglass.org
Siegler's opinion was irrelevant to the post. He simply quoted factual reporting by the Financial Times.I think he is qualified. It does not mean we have to agree with him.
You seem to disagree to his almost unwritten opinion on the matter we are discussing.
Apple's Deliciously Dripping with Disdain Press Release
Earlier today, I laid out why I thought Apple might end up taunting the EU with any changes they implement to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA) laws set to take effect in March. And after a roughly 30 minute honeymoon period when folks thought Apple may actually be
Will the EU Fine the EU Commissioner?
Thierry Breton goes rogue, has Brussels seeing rouge
Not talking about you - I find your posts thoughtful and arguing in good faith! Certain other posters I may have been quoting seem to like to disagree with anything I type without even stopping to think about whether or not what they are writing makes sense or is relevant to the conversation; like suggesting the fact that MG Siegler originally wanted to work in Hollywood somehow discounts his 20+ year career of being a prominent tech commentator and investor. But again, not talking about you!I think he is qualified. It does not mean we have to agree with him.
You seem to disagree to his almost unwritten opinion on the matter we are discussing.
Apple's Deliciously Dripping with Disdain Press Release
Earlier today, I laid out why I thought Apple might end up taunting the EU with any changes they implement to comply with the Digital Markets Act (DMA) laws set to take effect in March. And after a roughly 30 minute honeymoon period when folks thought Apple may actually be
Will the EU Fine the EU Commissioner?
Thierry Breton goes rogue, has Brussels seeing rouge
FWIW Siegler has been saying for years Apple should open up. He also thinks the DMA is not the right solution and is going to hurt the EU in the long run. I believe this is the quote that best sums up his opinion on the subject:
I am also clearly a big fan of this article of his:
The EU, Trapped in Tech Amber
I hope they like current tech because they may not get future tech...
spyglass.org
I think both MG Siegler and Ben Thompson of Stratechery do a very good job of explaining why the DMA is a bad solution while acknowledging that Apple has no one to blame but themselves for not getting ahead of this and opening up on their own accord. Do I agree with everything they write? Of course not! But I think they generally have pretty reasonable takes.
Ben Thompson is an American business, technology, and media analyst who lives in Taipei...Neither MG Siegler or Ben Thompson are going to profit by acknowledging DMA as good and EU's rights conduct DMA in the EU...
If you say so, but let's put it this way. Those who don't live in the EU, won't get any advantages from anything the DMA would do. But, those, who live in the EU would, citizens or not. That's all there's to it. If any business, foreign or from the EU violates the DMA, they'd get fined. That business entity can go to court, but in the EU. But, it will always be "comply and complain."
You keep saying random things that have nothing to do with the fact that Thierry Breton posted a warning letter without the commissions support or approval. Which is what we are talking about.
And it's kinda weird that you've come onto an American forum to discuss the DMA and you're only contribution is to repeat over and over again that Americans can't have an opinion on the DMA.
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The topic seems to be
Epic Games and Spotify Say Apple's Latest DMA Changes Are 'Illegal' and 'Deliberately Confusing'
So, about DMA, and Epic Games, an American company, and Spotify, a Swedish company claiming something.
I thought this is an international forum. If you think that it is American, and Americans are discussing the DMA, you can go on discussing that, nothing would change. DMA will still be there, and any business, from outside the EU or in the EU would have to comply with the DMA, or pay a stiff fine.
I guess the conversation you and I were having is too hard to follow.
You also thought that the Financial Times was based in the US, that MG Siegler was just a Hollywood guy, Americans are stereotypes, and that American's can't live in the EU or have a rational opinion of EU law.