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Epic Games Appeals Ruling in Apple Lawsuit, Claims Court Made Errors
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Shadier than Sweeney ? is that possible....the guy that plans for months to brazenly violate a contract that he signed and and then gets upset when he gets hit with the consequences ?
How does this affect the bill going through Senate right now? What if one goes in favor of Apple and the other not? They seem conflicting. This is why I’m not a lawyer.
Go Epic!
App Store rules are becoming totally unfair. Specially since there is no other way to download apps.
App Store rules are becoming totally unfair. Specially since there is no other way to download apps.
I think theres allways option... and that is Android for those who want to use 3rd party App stores.
I’m from Finland and I love AppStore. I hate Android Google Play store with all the free scam, ad or malware apps. In addition, on Android, children will always find a way to install programs outside the Play store, and some turned out to be malicious AND HATE TO SEE THAT on iPhone...
Maybe I have to ban epic game in my home network
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I’m from Finland and I love AppStore. I hate Android Google Play store with all the free scam, ad or malware apps. In addition, on Android, children will always find a way to install programs outside the Play store, and some turned out to be malicious AND HATE TO SEE THAT on iPhone...
Maybe I have to ban epic game in my home network
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So we can have special Fortnite events with characters from your favorite Apple TV+ series!
As long as I have a choice to keep my phone locked down and not have any of this crap touch me, I’m fine. One of the main reasons I like the Apple Ecosystem. Safer.
For the longest time I was on Epic's side here. I still think Apple needs to open up to allow for alt app store and purchase mechanisms but Epic at this point is simply embarrassing themselves. Apple wasn't found not guilty of being a monopoly, rather Epic failed in their argument to prove it. Go back and try to find a way to prove your argument rather than trying to force a mulligan before the same judge
So nice to see Apple caring about user experience in Apple store and allowing fake ads on games where they get a big share of revenues.So nice to see Tim Sweeney looking out for "developers and consumers" without being influenced by Epic games or Tencent's revenues.
Only when they can fight it out on the Four Seasons Total Landscaping parking lot.
What am I missing here? It’s Apple’s platform, store front, customer base, developer support, APIs, customer support, secure payment processing etc. They have every right to dictate the rules and how the store operates. Don’t like it, go buy an Android or Windows device and use that platform.
Even if this passes, MAYBE a few hundred thousand people (hundred thousand is a stretch at best) will go outside the App Store for games and apps. Hundreds of millions of users will continue to use the App Store as they have been doing so for years knowing their content and payment is safe.
Even if this passes, MAYBE a few hundred thousand people (hundred thousand is a stretch at best) will go outside the App Store for games and apps. Hundreds of millions of users will continue to use the App Store as they have been doing so for years knowing their content and payment is safe.
Isn't Apple's solution here to just allow third-party app stores but refuse to provide any hardware or software support for any phone with a different app store or any apps that didn't come from the official App Store installed?
Seems like the writing is on the wall that Apple will (eventually, gradually) be required to allow third-party app stores and alternative payment schemes on their devices. They might as well just get it over with. If they do it soon, Apple can make these changes their own way rather than whatever convoluted, hurried, or un-thought-through way a variety of courts force upon them.
Seems like the writing is on the wall that Apple will (eventually, gradually) be required to allow third-party app stores and alternative payment schemes on their devices. They might as well just get it over with. If they do it soon, Apple can make these changes their own way rather than whatever convoluted, hurried, or un-thought-through way a variety of courts force upon them.
I think Apple should allow the use of their party payment options for apps. But if the app chooses to use a third party payment method, the Apple App Store won’t be available. But for those apps, Apple would simple charge for hosting, distribution and such. Oh, and a big logo no App Store payments for those apps that go that path…
This will get endlessly appealed until one side or the other runs out of money or a new law (like the bill in congress now to allow sideloading) renders it moot. I'd like to have the flexibility of loading other software but I'm not willing to give up the security of Apple's curation. And as soon as sideloading is possible, it'll be de-facto required, and we'll all have new malware vectors, new Terms of Use, more companies holding our data and payment info, etc.. The crapification continues.
I enjoyed playing fortnite on my iPad, but I really don't want Epic to win here.
I enjoyed playing fortnite on my iPad, but I really don't want Epic to win here.
The bill in congress isn’t going anywhere. The closer it gets to passing, the more you’ll have companies like Sony and Nintendo speaking out because they know that the target’s on their back next. Microsoft may even have a word to say as I’m sure they’d be against Epic building an Epic store inside Game Pass
Buy and Android phone.
Same rules with more recent modifications to ease some of these concerns.
Create a WebApp. Microsoft did it with their Xbox streaming on iOS. Works fine. Provide any game you want without paying anything to Apple.
This may be news to some, but that's literally the point of the appeals process. One party (or both parties as in this case) believe the last judge got it wrong and would like a higher court to review the case. And you can appeal grades in college. Google "course grade appeal".
They will find out that they can't create a bill that is so narrow in nature. To affect basically 2 or 3 companies and not include the others (gaming consoles). Also, how are they supposed to enforce Apple to protect end users from a 3rd party App Store? How are they going to enforce compliance within Apple's iOS to ensure full compatibility of apps on that 3rd party store?
These politicians are Epic(ly) stupid.
These politicians are Epic(ly) stupid.
Why is Apple wasting money on a lawsuit with Epic and not just buying Epic?
Epic has no case. They never did. If I were a shareholder, I’d be concerned that Tim Sweeney is wasting Epic’s time and resources on his personal vendetta rather than on Epic’s interests. How exactly has Epic benefited from being kicked off the App Store again?
It always cracks me up when people talk as if Epic is a publicly traded company.