Apple does not have a monopoly power of any kind - they don't hold the majority of marketshare with any platform let alone enough of it to call it a monopoly. A phone OS is MASSIVELY different from a desktop OS, even at the kernel layer...
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Epic Games CEO Renews Attack on Apple and Calls for Single, Universal App Store
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Apple does not have a monopoly power of any kind - they don't hold the majority of marketshare with any platform let alone enough of it to call it a monopoly. A phone OS is MASSIVELY different from a desktop OS, even at the kernel layer...
Apple has too much power, let’s have one store that’s controlled by a board of people, that controls everything. They’ll either be ran by developers with motivates, or people who have zero understanding of app development. THEN it’ll be a fair market that benefits consumers.
Just wanted to add that, IMO, Epic & ALL others, are working the wrong Angle against Apple !
IMO, it's better to point out Apple's App Store flaws in "the Court of Public Opinion" !
That, IMO, will affect positive change faster !
i.) Complete & Total Stranglehold on "App Discovery," esp. for NON-Game Apps !
ii.) NO "App Discovery" competition, & thus, MUCH higher prices for Apps & IAPs !
iii.) The three guys who run the App Store, Tim, Phil, & Matt, have NO chip OR software development experience, & NO experience running a third-party software (OR otherwise) development company.
This reason alone could be why they've never been able to pivot away from Game Apps, & now also Apple Arcade.
In other words, In Over Their Heads !
iv.) IMO, Apple does NOT really have ANY so-called App Store "Editors"; it's very-likely Tim, Phil, & Matt, making the call on their own, & doing so ONLY for Marketing reasons.
Anyone can verify this independently, simply by doing a snapshot of the current status of the apps that Apple has recommend as Editor's Choice over the years !
Make NO mistake, the App Store is first & foremost, a Marketing Arm of Apple.
v.) The ability to completely suppress third-party App Innovation !
vi.) NO transparency to App Devs on the Apple-controlled Ratings dialog usage !
vii.) NO transparency to App Devs & the General Public on per-Category Revenue !
There are others, but these come to mind first.
IMO, it's better to point out Apple's App Store flaws in "the Court of Public Opinion" !
That, IMO, will affect positive change faster !
i.) Complete & Total Stranglehold on "App Discovery," esp. for NON-Game Apps !
ii.) NO "App Discovery" competition, & thus, MUCH higher prices for Apps & IAPs !
iii.) The three guys who run the App Store, Tim, Phil, & Matt, have NO chip OR software development experience, & NO experience running a third-party software (OR otherwise) development company.
This reason alone could be why they've never been able to pivot away from Game Apps, & now also Apple Arcade.
In other words, In Over Their Heads !
iv.) IMO, Apple does NOT really have ANY so-called App Store "Editors"; it's very-likely Tim, Phil, & Matt, making the call on their own, & doing so ONLY for Marketing reasons.
Anyone can verify this independently, simply by doing a snapshot of the current status of the apps that Apple has recommend as Editor's Choice over the years !
Make NO mistake, the App Store is first & foremost, a Marketing Arm of Apple.
v.) The ability to completely suppress third-party App Innovation !
vi.) NO transparency to App Devs on the Apple-controlled Ratings dialog usage !
vii.) NO transparency to App Devs & the General Public on per-Category Revenue !
There are others, but these come to mind first.
Don't think anybody really cares about this except those who want to attempt pick apart Apple. If people really cared even remotely about anything above, it would be reflected in app store revenues. Not to mention Apples financial report conforms to GAAP, so there is that.
By definition to "open" something allows access to it. It has nothing to do with increase or reduce.
Disagree 100% !
They have NO credible & viable competition, except at the lower-end of the smartphone market !
And here I'm simply using the Basic Common Sense rule !
Years ago, back in 1997 I believe, Microsoft was forced to give Apple $150M USD to prop-up Apple, to create competition.
Soon, I believe Apple will be forced to do the same.
And, I think they will see the wisdom in doing so.
Otherwise, they risk losing control of it ALL !
Look at where Apple's stock was trading at the tail-end of 2019; that could be where it's headed very-soon if the App Store is Broken Up !
Which, IMO, has a 90% probability of happening.
Apple will fight it every step of the way, but they will lose !
Just like in Politics, when the Pendulum swings too far for too long in one direction, there is Backlash !
This man is truly insane. Does he really believe that the majority of software developers want a single store that would allow users to only have to pay once for a cross platform app? Why does even he want that?
Apple gets 70% of their App Store Revenue from Game Apps, & that 70% comes from less than 10% of App Store consumers !
That data is new, & came-out of the Epic vs Apple court battle !
Even so, NOT many currently know it !
The market will wake-up once they see the impact that chip shortages is currently having on the Availability of Apple's latest & greatest products !
And from that, some will dig deeper & discover other Nuggets of information !
I just wanted to say that Tim Sweeney is like **** on velcro. I don't know if you all remember that one time a politician wanted to shutdown the gaming industry over violence. Tim is starting to fall on that category of guy.
Everything you stated isn't correct.
1) Apple created the iPhone when we had plenty of other options to choose from. People choose the iPhone.
2) What tax? It is called cost of doing business. You want to sell in any store. I take a cut every store works this way.
3) This is not the same as a desktop OS. Similar, but not the same. They didn't get away with anything.
4) Apple created the product, they get to design it however they want. They didn't have to allow any 3rd party anything
5) Microsoft still dominates the desktop market and now make hardware. I don't see any lawsuits against them here. Are they charging themselves the same amount to license the OS as they do say Dell or HP?
6) iPod again, existed first on the Mac platform. So even more of a limited user base. 30% cut of music sales then too.
7) It's not outrageous since it was built that way from the start.
The iOS devices have only in the last few years been comparable to a desktop/laptop in performance. When we started down this journey you couldn't do all this on a phone or a tablet. You would kill the battery, and you didn't have the same level of connectivity we enjoy today. To even download an app you would have to be on wifi. Or you would plug into your computer "tethered" to get your app and put it on your phone. The OS is not built to do the same exact things as the desktop Mac OS. Even proper file management is barely there today on iOS. It's built for efficiency, and maximum battery life/use. To take great phones, and run "mobile" apps. As it is a phone at the end of the day. There are many trade offs to be made in order to get all we have to work as well as it does.
To say, just treat it like a desktop OS where you can do all you want. Is ridiculous, as they are not the same thing. They are built for different use cases, and different circumstances.
What is up with people and December 9?
Is December 9 the next qAnon storm? /J
In all seriousness, all that’s going to happen on December 9 is that Apple can no longer reject applications that choose to offer their own payment providers.
That’s it. That’s all that’s happening on December 9, a change to Apple‘s app approval process.
It’s not gonna change app discoverability, it’s not going to change how open your iOS device is, and it most certainly isn’t going to make epic games very happy.
Also, Apple is far, far from doomed. People have been saying Apple is doomed for the past 20 years, and yet they’re the most valuable company in the world the majority of the time, until the days when they’re the second most valuable company in the world
When the iOS App Store was first announced Steve Jobs said Apple’s expectation wasn’t that it would be a profit center but that it would run break-even. The App Store didn’t launch with IAP. Once Apple realized how much money there was to be made from IAP (and iPhone growth started to slow) they pivoted to focusing on the App Store as a profit center.
I still can't get it how Epic and Apple couldn't agree on fair share from probably millions of dollars of people wanting to play Fortnite on iOS and iPadOS. It doesn't make business sense to not agree on that.
Is there some other reason? Like Apple want to block Epic to make their own metaverse and put it in app store? Or is it the clash of egos of Tim and Tim? Anyone knows?
Is there some other reason? Like Apple want to block Epic to make their own metaverse and put it in app store? Or is it the clash of egos of Tim and Tim? Anyone knows?
I'm getting really tired of Epic. I used to like them as a company, not anymore. Stop trying to manage other peoples businesses.
Have you heard from YouTube creators? They hate it.
There are several complaints from very famous YouTube creators who all say that they wish YouTube had actual competition, because of just how horrendous Google treats its creators.
On YouTube, it’s Google and only Google who decides what’s monetized and what isn’t, it’s Google who decides what belongs on their platform and what doesn’t, and it’s google who decides what is fair use and what isn’t, and more than not they don’t know what the words “fair use” actually means.
Is that really what you want for applications?
People flipped out when Apple kickes Fortnite out of the App Store only on their phones and tablets. Imagine the outrage if they kicked Fortnite out of a universal App Store across all platforms.
Not good.
One of the biggest reasons I’m happy my mom uses an iPad, and not a Mac.
Absolutely hate having the “no you can’t download Google Chrome from the App Store, you have to download it from the website and drag the app from the DMG into the applications folder” conversation.
Yes. The reason is Epic can’t be trusted to uphold a contract.
It would seem to favor free apps that use some kind of in app currency. Vbucks for all!
The 30% fee is not a tax — it is a distribution fee that covers their costs associated with supporting and distributing software through their platform. They’ve had this same fee when they had <10% market share. So if it was fair back then, why is it not fair now?
What do you think is a reasonable distribution fee, and what do you base it off? Because the cost of software distribution for developers was much higher than 30% prior to the App Store.
Even if you want it to happen, Apple will not be forced to allow more app stores or Sideloading on their platform anytime soon.
If Apple had to do that, then Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony would all have to do it as well.
What’s a lot more likely, and what we’re already seeing, is Apple having to allow more payment options from their App Store, and be more transparent about their advertising, app discoverability and approval processes.
But opening the iPhone? That won’t happen anytime soon
Ok, you are right, but what about Us others that don't want this solution, im happy whit the closed store a control over everything, even if its in some cases too hard i accept it, if i dont like it then ill go to Android, so why do you need to stay with Apple when you need something else.
Apple is a Monopoly ... like where ? https://www.statista.com/chart/22702/andoid-ios-market-share-selected-countries/ its from 2020 but the situatation hast changed much, or you are just making it UP because you think so.
Do you know what a monopol is ? Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
monopoly-like (no, Apple isn’t a monopoly, spare me your explanations) - hmm ok, on the phone market we have two plattforms ... so is now Apple responsible for failure of the MS Phone Devices ... you cant mean this serious.
If you really mean that "spare me your explanations" then why are you even asking / writing here ?
How is having one single app store as a monopoly better than what we currently have?