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Yep. No money is actually going back into consumers' hands with this ruling. It just changes which corporation's coffers the cash is dropped into.
Yep. Consumer choice is a solid emotional argument that plenty of people on here side with when they really don’t understand the mechanics of this lawsuit.

They didn’t even consider the possibility of Epic simply disabling all future in app purchases, keeping prices exactly the same on their private store (or raising them because, you know, lawyers are expensive) thus keeping the purchasing “choice” exactly the same. So, what did consumers win in this situation?
 
One can hope lower prices since Epic will be only paying 3% for a CC transaction instead of 30%.
Unless they're trying to gain market share against competitors or create customer goodwill as a marketing tool, there's little reason for any developers that are going outside the App Store for payments to reduce prices. Most companies are just going to use the savings to boost margins.
 
Yep. No money is actually going back into consumers' hands with this ruling. It just changes which corporation's coffers the cash is dropped into.
Outside of maybe a one-time "return to iOS" discount, Epic isn't going to charge less than what they're currently charging for VBucks on every other platform.
Note that the incident that spurred all of this saw Epic offering their in-app purchases at about a 20% discount to users if paid directly.
 
Customers will lose in fact. Now Epic will just get the kids to put mommy’s credit card in the Epic website and refuse to remove it even after little Billy maxes it out to buy Tim’s fake currency. And they’ll refuse refunds saying that little Billy clicked “agree” on the TOS page and that parental controls aren’t their problem.

And this will soon be the case for everyone on the App Store. All because some judge with a room temp IQ decided she knew better.
Are you Shadow or doom-and-gloom? You're saying it's Apple's job to parent kids spending? Puh-leez...and EVERYONE will experience this? 😂 How about parents take responsibility for their kids and not leave it up to Apple?
 
After all it’s a win for consumers. Good job!
Aw soon as Target has to Carry Wallmart prices and brands - this will make sense. And X-Box can't control its own store. And Ford must not build cars that depend on Ford parts. And ABC must show previews of what's playing on HBO. This is just silliness. It's a decision based on almost 18th century ideas of commerce.
 
Note that the incident that spurred all of this saw Epic offering their in-app purchases at about a 20% discount to users if paid directly.
Which itself was a public relations tactic to draw attention to Epic's ultimate end game/legal strategy. Also, if I'm not mistaken, App Store-bought VBucks were more expensive than VBucks bought through Epic's site to account for the Apple commission. All Epic did was bring the price in line with what they were charging everywhere else.

I'm not defending the App Store here. I am just saying that this ruling is pro-developer, not necessarily pro-consumer.
 
Aw soon as Target has to Carry Wallmart prices and brands - this will make sense. And X-Box can't control its own store. And Ford must not build cars that depend on Ford parts. And ABC must show previews of what's playing on HBO. This is just silliness. It's a decision based on almost 18th century ideas of commerce.
wait is this a troll or are you serious?
 
I hate monopolistic and anti-competitive practices more than I love Apple. This is a win for consumers, and a loss for Apple’s malicious compliance (though they’re far from the only ones).

I get the vibe from a lot of comments in here that if the judges name were Mark, rather than Yvonne, their intellect and worth to society wouldn’t be judged so harshly.
 
Which itself was a public relations tactic to draw attention to Epic's ultimate end game/legal strategy. Also, if I'm not mistaken, App Store-bought VBucks were more expensive than VBucks bought through Epic's site to account for the Apple commission. All Epic did was bring the price in line with what they were charging everywhere else.
I can't speak to that, but I can speak to the discount on iOS because of screenshots of the "How do you want to pay?" screen. To your original point, when compared to Apple's IAP-only solution, money will be going back into customers' hands. Well, rather, it'll never leave their hands.

Now I see Apple only featuring developers who have their in app purchases in their apps. Way to go epic games.
I struggle to understand how this is the self-own you seem to be making it out as. It's precisely no different from the present, and especially for a developer at Epic's scale, they...don't really need an App Store feature.
 
Nope App Store offers security and trust. Many devs will sell service out of App Store still using App Store to gain customers easily. Do you know how Epic charge in Epic Store? 30% lol
This has nothing to do with App Store vs non-app store, but the prevention of in-app purchases outside of Apple’s ecosystem system. An example, right now you cannot subscribe to Netflix within the app, because if Netflix were to offer that ability they would be charged a 30% App Store fee. Furthermore, up until recently, they couldn’t even provide a link to the Netflix website to subscribe. Users literally had to figure things out on their own. All this ruling does is force Apple to allow a link to, for example, Netflix’s website where people can subscribe directly to Netflix. You still have to go through the App Store (in the US at least) to download the Netflix app.
 
This has nothing to do with App Store vs non-app store, but the prevention of in-app purchases outside of Apple’s ecosystem system. An example, right now you cannot subscribe to Netflix within the app, because if Netflix were to offer that ability they would be charged a 30% App Store fee. Furthermore, up until recently, they couldn’t even provide a link to the Netflix website to subscribe. Users literally had to figure things out on their own. All this ruling does is force Apple to allow a link to, for example, Netflix’s website where people can subscribe directly to Netflix. You still have to go through the App Store (in the US at least) to download the Netflix app.
As it should be. Apple is operating under this assumption that it doesn't need developers as much as they need Apple. Those chickens came home to roost in the form of the AVP store which is a ghost town. It's depressing as someone who wants that platform to succeed but I can hardly blame devs for their response to Apple's latent hostility lo these many years
 
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It sure would -- and will!

"the gamesmanship abounds"


Bravo 👏
Many are absolutely fed up and DONE with Apple's malicious compliance BS
 
I'm glad people are so excited to be moving to the new world of no phones. The lovely rotatory models that had nothing special. Apple will most likely start migrating to the computer/AI/entertainment business since having a safe store has become meaningless. Rather than going to a high end mall you'll all end up in that lovely dump selling cigs and rags down on the corner. Have fun. I'm cashing out while I'm still alive.

Now...off to Lowe's where I can easily buy home Depot products. Umm...
 
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