eSata very sluggish with Mac Mini

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  1. 77slevin macrumors member

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    I bought a LaCie eSata hub to thunderbolt to use with my Mac Mini, but I'm very disappointed with the performance. Browsing with the finder on the connected HD (Western Digital My Book Studio II) is very slow and indexing thumbnails of pictures takes ages. I did a few speed tests and read and write performance is a bit under what I have when I connect the disk with Firewire 800! I mailed LaCie support but they say that the transfers speeds are normal, and it's probably the WD My Book that slows it down. (Suprise suprise blame the other devices, not their own.) Thing is: I used this exact disk with a PC for 2 years connected to a Windows PC with eSata and didn't experience any slowdowns.
    Has anybody else used the Lacie eSata hub on their macs and what was your opinion of the device?
     
  2. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    It actually may be an incompatibility with the WD drive.

    Did you actually partition and format the drive for your Mac? You did confirm it was OK with FW 800.

    LaCie only recommends its own drives, and even then, does not say all LaCie eSATA drives are compatible. There may be some implementations of eSATA that have issues.

    I have the device here with LaCie and Seagate GoFlex drives; both have good performance with eSATA that is faster than FW800. Sorry, don't have an eSATA WD drive here. What model do you have? WD case, too?

    What are you using to confirm performance? Have you run Black Magic or AJA Disk Test apps?
     
  3. 77slevin, Mar 8, 2013
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    Did you actually partition and format the drive for your Mac? You did confirm it was OK with FW 800.
    When I changed to Mac last year, I reformatted the drive to Mac Os Extended (Journaled) en put all the data back that was on it when I used it with the PC.

    What model do you have? WD case, too?
    It's a Western Digital My Book Studio II with 2 WD disks in RAID 1. This case has 1eSata port, 2 Firewire 800 ports and a USB 2.0 port. When I used it with the PC it was also in RAID 1 and when I bought the disk it came formatted for Mac, so I'm pretty sure they deem it Mac-compatible.

    What are you using to confirm performance? Have you run Black Magic or AJA Disk Test apps?
    I've used Black Magic to confirm speeds, but just using the drive browsing through files, it feels very sluggish. I've reconnected it with Firewire and browsing through the same folders went much smoother.
    I'm at work right now, but when I get home I'll post the screenshots I took from Black Magic.
     
  4. 77slevin thread starter macrumors member

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    As promised here's the black magic test with eSata:
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    An here's the test with a Firewire 800 connection:
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    The results are almost identical. Sadly I can't test the disk anymore with a PC because I sold it last year. My mind is made up, the hub goes back to LaCie.
     
  5. philipma1957, Mar 8, 2013
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  6. g4cube macrumors 6502a

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    I have to agree. If you want to see faster performance, you could try setting up RAID-0 with the drives. IN RAID-1, you won;t be seeing any better performance.
     
  7. rbk123 macrumors newbie

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    DiskSpeedTest.png

    LaCie D2 3Tb thunderbolt external. Includes the thunderbolt cable. Using on a MacMini 2011 I7
     
  8. 77slevin thread starter macrumors member

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    I think you're missing the point. We are talking about an eSata drive connected to thunderbolt via an eSata hub. If I test my Thunderbolt disk connected to the thunderbolt port I also get marvelous speed results with Black Magic.
     
  9. rbk123 macrumors newbie

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    Yup, I know what was tried. I looked at the same solution as it lets you use your existing ESATA drives. My mini doesn't have USB3 so the only options were the ESATA ports and a native thunderbolt solution. In the end I felt the native thunderbolt solution was the best.

    I had read some comments that the ESATA ports were somewhat picky as to which drives would connect and I decided it wasn't worth the trouble.

    There are also Seagate thunderbolt adapters. The portable version is around $90.00 but doesn't include a cable. The desktop version (made for Seagate External units) could also work but it is around $180.00 and also does not include a cable. I have a number of external Seagate drives but they are all PC formatted and if I was going to have to buy another drive I decided on the D2
    instead

    As you are returning the unit and I thought I would give you another alternative to consider. If it doesn't fit your situation then of course don't consider it.
     
  10. eyepea macrumors member

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    Not that this helps You but it gives you and idea of what the LaCie hub can do, I have a newer tech raid 0 of 2 times 4gb drives and an owc raid 0 of 2 times 3 gb both running at read and write on black magic at around 215 megabits per second. Your drive in the enclosure might be a slower green drive? LaCie should run much faster so I think it is your HDD?
     
  11. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 601

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    You mean probably TB and MByte/s.
     
  12. eyepea macrumors member

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    Yes, sorry I wrote this on an iphone on bus.
     
  13. Amu macrumors newbie

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    Did you find a solution for the slow speed?
    I just got the LaCie hub eSata, thunderbolt and connected eSata 2x WD my book studio 2 and the speed is not working slow like slow.
    :(
    The speed is 10x slower than I connect with Firewire 800?
     
  14. 77slevin thread starter macrumors member

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    No, I did not find an adequate solution. Because the product was still in it's 7 days grace period, I sent it back and got my money returned.

    I did try to work with LaCie support to try different settings but ultimately it didn't perform as advertised. :(
     

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