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If the X wasn't introduced, I'd have upgraded to the 8 Plus. Its internal upgrades are definitely impressive, but I'm just not a fan of the dated exterior appearance. Waiting for the X is really a no-brainer.

By the way, I love your user name. I was a big fan of those books as a kid!

Thanks! Me, too. :)

I really would get the 8 plus for the internal upgrades. The exterior is lackluster and I am not feeling that gold two-toned vibe, so I'd probably be getting a black/grey or a silver/white, but I would get it if that was what they came up with. I don't like the way they did the launch this year. I wish they'd put the X as the priority and launched all 3 side by side.
 
Thanks! Me, too. :)

I really would get the 8 plus for the internal upgrades. The exterior is lackluster and I am not feeling that gold two-toned vibe, so I'd probably be getting a black/grey or a silver/white, but I would get it if that was what they came up with. I don't like the way they did the launch this year. I wish they'd put the X as the priority and launched all 3 side by side.

I completely agree about the launch. I was checking this site every 10 minutes or so for the key note updates and wasn't exactly thrilled when they announced that the preorder date for the X will be October 27. I understand that production of new devices can get hampered with unforeseen issues, but, for a company of Apple's stature, this is a bit sloppy.
 
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I completely agree about the launch. I was checking this site every 10 minutes or so for the key note updates and wasn't exactly thrilled when they announced that the preorder date for the X will be October 27. I understand that production of new devices can get hampered with unforeseen issues, but, for a company of Apple's stature, this is a bit sloppy.

I wasn't happy about the dates either... if I'm lucky enough to get release day delivery, I have little time to break it in before flying out on business that Sunday. Although I'm looking forward to testing the camera out around San Francisco that week... Just wish there was more of a buffer to increase the chances of receiving it before my trip.
 
I wasn't happy about the dates either... if I'm lucky enough to get release day delivery, I have little time to break it in before flying out on business that Sunday. Although I'm looking forward to testing the camera out around San Francisco that week... Just wish there was more of a buffer to increase the chances of receiving it before my trip.

I know the feeling. I'm flying out to Europe on November 11 and will be there for two weeks. I'd love to get the phone by November 10 (I'm placing my order as soon as preorders open) and bring it with me, but who knows what will happen when there's a mad rush to get the preorders in?
 
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In the big scheme of things, if you own a 6s there is no need to upgrade to a 7 or 8, you mostly loose essential features while getting arguably negligible upgrades to existing ones.

All in the same body more or less as your 6s and the iPhone that came out a year or more before you made your 6s purchase. I guess for most 6s owners, myself included, it's only a choice between the X or next year's iPhone.
 
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Ok, 12 million doesn't sound as bad after all the talk about 10,000 units/day and multiple issues with manufacturing.

12 million iPhone X's at launch and estimates say 50 million are going to be ordering one then. Also they're only on track to make 40 million by the end of 2017 with an additional 60-80 million wanting an iPhone X in the 6 months after launch. How does it sound now?
 
12 million iPhone X's at launch and estimates say 50 million are going to be ordering one then. Also they're only on track to make 40 million by the end of 2017 with an additional 60-80 million wanting an iPhone X in the 6 months after launch. How does it sound now?

Doesn’t sound too bad considering the earlier worries. If they’re able to manufacture 10 million in October and are still ramping up from there, then a total of 100 million over the first 6 months might be doable.

Besides, these are all really rough estimates. Only Apple knows the actual numbers.
 
Doesn’t sound too bad considering the earlier worries. If they’re able to manufacture 10 million in October and are still ramping up from there, then a total of 100 million over the first 6 months might be doable.

Besides, these are all really rough estimates. Only Apple knows the actual numbers.
My guess is a repeat of the AirPods scenario. Persistent 3-4 week (or more!) backorder for several months after launch... and likely that shipping dates will slip within seconds of preorder launch.
 
Sad thing is there’s definitely gonna be many iPhone X drop/crack/bend/blend test videos on youtube on launch week when so many people will be waiting on backorders
I wanna smack the kids on those videos so bad lol

Expect a lot of down votes on those videos from possibly millions of people waiting weeks or months for an X.
 
Better call sal then
He will hand deliver my X
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12 million iPhone X's at launch and estimates say 50 million are going to be ordering one then. Also they're only on track to make 40 million by the end of 2017 with an additional 60-80 million wanting an iPhone X in the 6 months after launch. How does it sound now?
No, 50 million won't be ordering/wanting one at launch...Would be 3X the highest sales at launch.
 
Old news is old.

It could've been around 10,000 a day at first in early Sept when he reported that, and then later slowly increased as the assemblers got more experienced.

Foxconn usually runs about 100 assembly lines for launches, so it makes sense that a new phone would start with only 100 per line per day (10,000/day).

And then over the month of September ramp up to about 3,000 per line per day (10 million a month predicted in Oct)... or by adding more lines if it takes more time to build each one.
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Then again, who knows if this new analyst is right about 10 million in October? Perhaps there are parts constraints that will prevent it.

I guess we'll find out soon!

Where I am we used to play a game that roughly translates to "broken phone" and was about the "mutation" of an original phrase through the players from the first receiver to yhe last One. Sounds a lot like what happens with rumors.


The problem I have is not with Ming-Chi Kuo, but with MacRumors. I think kdarling is correct in that it might have been 10k per day at the very beginning. The problem is that MacRumors keeps including this 10k per day nonsense every single time they post an update to this story, making it sound like that is the current output.
 
As a 6S Plus owner, whose wife is on a 7 with improved camera and SOC, and finds the 8 interesting for the improved SOC and camera (interesting enough to be worth an upgrade if we weren't seeing the X as well), can you tell me what, pray tell, are the "essential features" one loses by upgrading from the 6S to a 7 or 8? Oh, and I have both the Airpods and Beats Solo with the automatic pairing, so "headphone jack" doesn't count...



I'm right there with you...

In my case, I would lose features that I use every day. Being able to switch between app audio sources immediately, being able to use the iPhone as an audio source in multiple audio systems reliably, being able to choose any headphones/speakers to amplify its sound, being able to keep the phone charged as it is used as a recording/audio source device. There is nothing that the 7 can do that the 6s can't, it's only the other way around.

I really love my iPhone 6s, people that I work with that own the 7 find it annoying. The 6s might not be the prettiest, but it's so capable. I just updated to iOS11 and it runs like a new phone, very smooth.

YMMV
 
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