I still don't understand how Apple not allowing reviews of their own apps hasn't drawn any attention from watchdogs...
Frankly, this is a WILD tin hat conspiracy theory.Nobody can verify it, because Apple does not allow any insight into its operations.
I would only believe it 100% if there was an independent audit performed. Otherwise we're just asked to believe Uncle Tim.
True, though with so much content being encrypted en-route, you'll get mostly traffic analysis, rather than a peek at what is being sent. Still, if the site being contacted is, say, "tracking.facebootk.com", or "nefarious.apple.com", that could raise an eyebrow.Since it’s easy to use a wire shark or other technological means to determine what information is sent off the device, and since Apple can’t collect it if it is not sent off the device, your premise that “nobody can verify it” is quite flawed.
Maybe they were talking about something different at WWDC a few years back, but I thought I remember them talking about anonymized tracking or something...?WHY is this soooo hard for people to grasp??? If it were better understood, there would be a LOT of people suddenly dropping Android for iOS.
People don't get it, though. Technology is magic. Technology steals your data. Therefore, all technology works the same and steals your data.
When face ID came out, apple was bragging about how many times users unlock their iPhones with touch id and how much time would be saved with face iD. That sounds like tracking to me.The article says apple doesn't track users, so apple has no need to use the popup. Same as any other developer who doesn't track users.
And the data is protected and randomized and not sent out of Apple or sold. And you can still turn that off and Apple warns about lost functionality depending on which thing you disable.I thought it was common knowledge that Apple does track things on phones.
It just uses the for in-house uses, does not sell the data etc, but it does take it.
Of course it would say it uses this data to monitor for problems, improve apps and user experience etc.
But as I said I thought we knew they all did it?
That would probably be because Apple DOES allow reviews of its own products. I don’t know what planet or epoc you exist in but it ain’t here. I just posted a review of Pages without incident.I still don't understand how Apple not allowing reviews of their own apps hasn't drawn any attention from watchdogs...
Tracking anonymoized stats is not the same as tracking PII. IE number of times Face ID used = number of times Face ID used + 1.When face ID came out, apple was bragging about how many times users unlock their iPhones with touch id and how much time would be saved with face iD. That sounds like tracking to me.
Photos or Camera don’t either. You want pop up permissions for those built in core features too?One thing I’ve noticed, Messages does not require permission to access my photos.
That would probably be because Apple DOES allow reviews of its own products. I don’t know what planet or epoc you exist in but it ain’t here. I just posted a review of Pages without incident.
The linked article seems to make the devastating discovery that failure to completely turn off location services does in fact mean you failed to completely turn off location services.All the non-developer Apple Stans out here saying "Apple doesn't track users!"
They do. Ads served within the App Store, Weather, News, Stocks, and too a MUCH lesser extent are all built around the same device-ID-based audiences they're cutting off from third-party advertisers. The only difference is Apple can "guarantee" its playing by its own rules and only using that data in aggregate.
Not to mention location tracking. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/12/the-iphone-11-pros-location-data-puzzler/
I am quite okay with apple having a modicum of data to have some type of decent customer experience within Apples' ecosystem. No different than many other vendors who retain customer data so they can give their customers some type of experience, for example car dealers, other manfacturers of consumer electronic devices or major appliance retailers, banks and other financial institutions etc.All the non-developer Apple Stans out here saying "Apple doesn't track users!"
They do. Ads served within the App Store, Weather, News, Stocks, and too a MUCH lesser extent are all built around the same device-ID-based audiences they're cutting off from third-party advertisers. The only difference is Apple can "guarantee" its playing by its own rules and only using that data in aggregate.
Not to mention location tracking. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/12/the-iphone-11-pros-location-data-puzzler/
Or Apple could put up a popup saying, "We don't track our users unlike that company that makes that other operating system."Yes, but for the EU sake, we want something like a comfort popup - it's a pop up just like anything else, just that is does nothing. It's give you nice peace of mind that you can switch it on and off, on and off ... I have total control! WEEEEEE!![]()
None of us really knows what data Apple is collecting. It's opaque for a reason. Probably a lot less than Google, given their incentives as a hardware/software company rather than an ad/cloud company. Either way, the data collection doesn't clearly affect the user, so it's a reasonable strategy to not care.WHY is this soooo hard for people to grasp??? If it were better understood, there would be a LOT of people suddenly dropping Android for iOS.
People don't get it, though. Technology is magic. Technology steals your data. Therefore, all technology works the same and steals your data.