EU Finds Apple Lacking in Efforts to Address In-App Payment Issues

[D-Dave]

Yes. Because it's clear that both are ridiculously over-reaching and unnecessarily onerous regulatory actions taken by the EU.

Ok, let me rephrase that question to emphasise the point I was trying to make:
Do you realy think that a regulation about a possible health risk (even if you do not believe it is a great one) is compareable to a regulation about an electronic way to sell/purchase digital content...
You know...like....Healthrisk vs. monetary inconvenience?!

Yes I have. Tin-lead solder has been used by the electronics industry for over a century. I have not seen any concrete evidence that tin-lead solder ALONE has ever been labeled as an environmental issue. And yet, it's banned in Europe.

So the difference in our perspectives is that you think before something may be banned it has to be proven without a doubt that it is harmfull while I think that something that has a high potential risk of being harmfull should be banned, especially if there are alternatives around (even though those alternatives are a bit inconvenient to you)

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Thanks for the concern, but I'm pretty sure it won't. As a thank you for your concern may I recommend this to you: Health effects of lead and maybe this: e-Waste Exports to Africa
I know the second may not be your particular cup of tea because it is associated with the government that continues to try to take away your assault rifles to leave you defenseless with only your hunting rifles and .45.

....ups, sorry what I meant to say was that it is the same (US) government that took away your beloved leaded fuel, lead paints and lead water systems, ...but that last sentence had so much redneck vibe in it, it got me all confused...again, sorry for the mixup darling.

 

[nsayer]

Ok, let me rephrase that question to emphasise the point I was trying to make:
Do you realy think that a regulation about a possible health risk (even if you do not believe it is a great one) is compareable to a regulation about an electronic way to sell/purchase digital content...
You know...like....Healthrisk vs. monetary inconvenience?!


So the difference in our perspectives is that you think before something may be banned it has to be proven without a doubt that it is harmfull while I think that something that has a high potential risk of being harmfull should be banned, especially if there are alternatives around (even though those alternatives are a bit inconvenient to you)



Thanks for the concern, but I'm pretty sure it won't. As a thank you for your concern may I recommend this to you: Health effects of lead and maybe this: e-Waste Exports to Africa
I know the second may not be your particular cup of tea because it is associated with the government that continues to try to take away your assault rifles to leave you defenseless with only your hunting rifles and .45.

....ups, sorry what I meant to say was that it is the same (US) government that took away your beloved leaded fuel, lead paints and lead water systems, ...but that last sentence had so much redneck vibe in it, it got me all confused...again, sorry for the mixup darling.

Once again, in your rush to ad hominem you miss the point entirely.

Lead is harmful. Duh.

So then why hasn't the EU banned lead-acid batteries if they're so up in arms about the harm to the environment?

No, they'd rather do something symbolic that needlessly increases costs and decreases yield for no real gain rather than do something that's actually effective.

 

[Swytch]

Oh I dunno, perhaps when they by default set settings to allow children to buy IAP's with no security or stoppages to seemingly profit from those purchases with it's 30% cut perhaps?

OK, and how is this any different than any other company and tactics used to get kids to spend parents money?

Brand new toy must buy for your kids, provides hours of fun for $9.95, get it home and find out you need accessory for $40, and batteries for $10, oh and its no fun without the villain for $50...

Oh and all the endless commercials telling kids to ask parents for permission to use credit card first... yeah lets tell the kids they can use their parents credit card and trust that they wont use it without permission just because the TV said so... "Dont try this at home" disclaimers have been proven not to work either...

What apple is doing is no more devious than what any other company does... and actually, I seem to remember people complaining a lot about how often you originally had to enter your password because there was no grace period, Apple adds one and sets it to default on (because you know, everyone requested this) - now lets complain that Apple accommodated its customers wishes, and say they are not accommodating their customers....

Every decision a company makes is a compromise, they have to decide what will sell the most units, and see what people want. Its not always some devious plan to get kids to accidentally spend money (honsetly why would this be their plan when they have good lawyers that would have told them well then you open up people to refunds of purchases made by kids - even if the consumer lies about the kid making the purchase - and Apple would be refunding the whole purchase, not just the 30% Apple collected).

And really, what happens now that you enter you password more and fingerprint marks are left on screen more and there are more chances for your kid to see you entering your password? next up on the class action lawsuit list: my kid stole my password and purchased a bunch of stuff, apple owes me a refund.

Besides the fact that noone has brought up the fact that there are no such restrictions on a desktop PC by default, and by default after you make one purchase on amazon online, kid could easily open up website and last website you were on opens (amazon), and they click sign in and your login information auto fills, at checkout, amazon stores credit card info, so bam kid purchases anything they want - including digital goods not normally returnable. wheres the class action lawsuit and legislation for this?